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What's the better choice: Mx4 or ACS12? Rainbow Six Siege

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Illyaas Ibnluqman (1 minute ago)
The shotgun is good on plane thats it.
Lon3Wolf65 (14 days ago)
11:20 That hipfire flick, tho
KopSer (25 days ago)
Music from payday in the end Good
DA FOIL (28 days ago)
I thought the meme gun was the mxstorm cuz u can pretend to be a hologram ... :/
Doot Doot (1 month ago)
Sometimes you gotta remember the psychology behind some of the situations, people tend to turn and run when they hear the big auto shotgun shooting at them despite the mediocre stats because of the sound design behind it. It sounds powerful and people tend to perceive it as that even if it isn’t exactly the case. That’s why it’s a lot of fun flanking as Alibi with the big dumb shotgun
LD Torres (1 month ago)
Theres always alot of numbers
Geo Shot (1 month ago)
14:33
Lexton Ravaee (1 month ago)
Show us more game play of the shot gun and not jackal
Ello Hi (1 month ago)
How do you have 200 health???
Chavon James (1 month ago)
@rogue9 #whatevenismobility I think it has to mean your movement speed such as ADS, your speed as 3,2,&1 speed which includes your lean speed, going prone, and not tie in with your turn time and threshold (x/y axis speed)
Lord Gestrüpp (1 month ago)
I tried the acs12 with angled grip so you don't have to. Don't do it, not even a little bit worth it in any way.
Silver1989 (1 month ago)
I think the Extended Barrel is worth it on any roamer if you peek outside enough.
Silver1989 (1 month ago)
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Mr Thiccman gaming (1 month ago)
AA12
A s is a great ambush weapon because it requires no aim. As a defender I jumped out of the garage on Oregon and killed 3 players repelling and one montage by point and hold
Why would you aim down sights with the ACS12
Yayo' Ariowibowo (1 month ago)
Give the ACS12 some HE rounds
typical panda (1 month ago)
U sound like a d-tec David Attenborough that takes drugs and has forgotten his wife is locked in the basement
Ario (1 month ago)
Ill say fuck this just use Maestros LMG
KILLJOY84THEMAST er (1 month ago)
Inferior hahahahah I rock echos and hibanas shotgun and come out with at least 3 kills every round so pls don't call shotguns inferior it's just the people useing them
I tried the LMG and the recoil wasnt manegable for me so i tried the shotgun ,but little did i know the recoil could break maestro's hand
Masked Reaper00 (1 month ago)
"The first fully automatic shotgun the ACS12" he says ignoring what the spetsnaz has for shotguns
Chibuike Franklin (1 month ago)
Mobility is how fast you can move with the gun in your hand 50-max 0-turtle
Lykos AKUMA (1 month ago)
Rogue,,, haha good game. you don't know me but if yo remember TrxshAimR6... thas me
ElderChargeDragon 1414 (1 month ago)
Is it just me or does rogues voice sound like the natural geographic narrator guy...
MadPlayz (1 month ago)
12:43 The aa-12 is probably a very good addition if you're defending kids bedroom.
pokecraft king (1 month ago)
Is it possible to have a similar video but with maestro's primary weapons?
Tahmeed Khan (1 month ago)
Mx4 is so underpowered
Jarvan IV. (1 month ago)
ALDA or ACS?
Colonizer-Chan (1 month ago)
https://youtu.be/siOEEOTjGqM Ah, yes, very realistic recoil.
Californian Ranger (1 month ago)
Mobility is how fast you movd with the weapon in hand
Snakevenom 24297 (1 month ago)
personally i like the mx4 with reflex vertical and suppressor, as i have the recoil mastered, and can consistently hit headshots with the suppressor on, and it sounds cool😂
Verbose Mode (1 month ago)
I am very annoyed by the ACS footage all being of other operators.
GamingPrime (1 month ago)
How did he have so much health on custom games
scalpingsnake (1 month ago)
Anyone know the music at the start of the video?
Underdose (1 month ago)
When you put shotguns which in real life are totally viable at over 40 meters and put them in a game where the average kill distance is like 20 meters, unless u you want insanelky overpowered shotguns you need to make them terrible. They work in battlefield because its huge and open and has bullet drop, siege is another ballpark
Fat Dragon (1 month ago)
Am I the only one who thinks frost’s smg is amazing cuz it has decent damage, and basically no recoil?
Noside Noside (1 month ago)
laser: "someone's aiming here"
Strange Individual (1 month ago)
Hey rouge can you test the difference between the para 308 and the M249 for capitol because in game they have the same RPM and damage and with the recent recoil changes to the para 308 I would like to see the difference
Strange Individual (1 month ago)
Thanks fan of your vids for a long time :)
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
Good idea. will add it to my list!
Ruben Chapman (1 month ago)
Can you do a video on the viability of single fire, like you did with the burst fire video. Plllllleeeaaasssseee.
Noriael Gamer (1 month ago)
Gotta love the obvious murder of realism for balance. The ACS12 is still has the AA12's system. It shouldn't have ANY recoil. But 'Realism' Amiright?
Edward Nguyen (1 month ago)
Rouge 9 I have a question, what do you sound like when you rage?
Kyle Kalagher (1 month ago)
Any airsofts in here? R9 sounds just like Tim from RWA? Right!
Alexsir75 (1 month ago)
Or play a character that has a gadget that actually does something useful.
MrRocketman88 (1 month ago)
Always enjoy your content. I dropped a message on your Facebook not sure you can read it but I don't use Twitter. I shall post it here as well mind as it uses your famous spreadsheet data to make a new game mode in siege xD
MrRocketman88 (1 month ago)
I have made a tactical game mode based around in game. Let me know what you think. The game mode is based on a credit system each operator in the game is given a credit value between 10-50. These values are worked out using the average DPS values of the primary guns an operator has access to including the machine pistols at 10m. These average DPS values are then multiplied by a value created using the pick rate and win rate values provided by ubisoft. This creates a score and I put the scores Into 5 categories which represent credit values. The distribution isn't evenly spread as operators are placed based on score. The teams can then only pick operators without exceeding the credit allowance ( 30 X the number of players on your team). I have found the operators with the high credit values reflect the current meta. I have played it on custom games and it makes for very interesting gameplay as teams are forced to discuss who to use as they have a spending limit. It also forces people to not pick the usual suspects or ops they are good with. It's interesting as everyone knows not all operators are equal and some provide more to the table. If you like the idea I can provide a little more info :).
Luke Paschall (1 month ago)
I noticed how you said that you said muzzle break should he used on most guns. Could you explain to me why? That would be great thanks.
Stiffbus 101 (1 month ago)
Can u talk about glaz's new recoil
wmoros (1 month ago)
*yes*
Oof (1 month ago)
12 gage shotgun has less damage than a 9mm, pretty realistic I would say 👌
LinkinPark4Ever1996 (1 month ago)
7:30 did you forget that the laser rule for a tighter hipfire spread no longer affect shotguns? It got removed months ago, except for Buck's shotgun
Happy the Cat (1 month ago)
Gonna have to disagree on who should use the AA-, er, ACS-12, Alibi's decoys have the vanilla Mx4, so having the shotgun really stands out. Maestro however is going to spend as much time as he can on point in his cams, so when he has to engage it will be on point, where you're gonna be pretty close range most of the time, unless you're doing something like shooting across the basement of Clubhouse. So, with the shotty he's kinda equipped like Smoke, except for their guns traded their full auto and 1-2 hit kill properties. But that's Not to say you really should ever bring the AA-12 out, but if you do it should be with the op who doesn't have to rely on their primary gun to be effective in a round. Simple as that.
Declan Williams (1 month ago)
What do you think of a castle buff that changes his barricades into a bulletproof automatic door which only opens for defenders that can be blown up. Glaz would not be able to shoot through them however Thatcher could temporarily disable the automatic opening and closing of the doors for defenders. Dokkeabi could also possibly hack the doors allowing the doors to open for attackers however I personally think this could make these new barricades obsolete.
Ethan Tufts (1 month ago)
I loved your video about the best shotgun in the game that you made a while back but i would love to see a similar video for Assault Rifles or SMG's. I would love to find out the best assualt rifle in the game.
ian scott (2 months ago)
I want to see if its possibe to spawnkill with the acs-12
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
shotguns have a 40 max range (after that they do 0 dmg). they also don't have a headshot multiplier, so no one shot kills. and the spread means that you will very quickly only land a single pellet with every shot, for very low damage. the bottom line is, no. it's almost impossible to spawn kill with any shotgun except the BOSG
Marlow (2 months ago)
Become a narrator
Iain Mccarthy (2 months ago)
Can we get a best pistol in the game
jbrockgaming (2 months ago)
But on spawn peed I Didn't seen any damages dropped
Billy Alvizo (2 months ago)
Isnt appbounty a scam lmao
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
I get sponsorship offers almost every day and turn down almost all of them. The ones I do accept are checked thoroughly first. I am aware of the Drift0r video, in which he calls these kind of Apps "child labour scams" but I personally do not see how he can draw such a conclusion. Besides this, both Apple and Google are extremely careful about which apps are allowed to be listed in their stores. This app is available in both stores and will have gone through a rigorous screening process. If you have any personal experience with this App that you want to make me aware of, please do!
poompaka 23 (2 months ago)
Kind of out of the blue question, but would consider doing an updated pistol guide for all the pistols currently in the game?
Andrea Colombo (2 months ago)
In my opinion the acs-12 is an very good when facing more than one enemy because of its rate of fire and mags size
MetalBlizzard (2 months ago)
This was such a concise video, as always. I love Alibi, she's my favorite roamer. When I roam I prefer the Mx4 for the range, if I anchor I find the utility of the ACS12 matched with the Keratos pistol allows her to be quite useful. Great video! Random question, as someone who is trying to make videos for youtube, do you have any advice you would give? Your videos are like a r6 siege textbook, I feel like you would also have great advice for youtube content creation! Thanks
Kettu Gaming (2 months ago)
Rogue 9 can you test that can you kill when you enter from a window
the one from no one (2 months ago)
I don't want to brag or anything but I personally think I got the first ace with alibi shotgun but I don't know and yes that shotgun is very op in the right hands
Samli (2 months ago)
I use the shotgun just so it forces me to use the Rhino which is extremely underestimated
Game Lover (2 months ago)
Didnt expect such a serious topic from rouge 9
Some random Dude (2 months ago)
Who else doesn’t run any attachments on the MX4
JxeWarren - (2 months ago)
Doesn’t matter, she’s shit either way
Mathijs Hermans (2 months ago)
* Equips AA12 shoots all walls objective, Throws AA12 out the window and uses Rhino for the rest of the game. EZ diamond. Tbh i dont even play alibi
Airwipe (2 months ago)
#whatevenismobility
Chandler Smith (2 months ago)
I don't care how good you are even when people say you aren't the best. I'd still love to play with you but I'm a console pleb
Sam Tobio (2 months ago)
Ela has a full auto shotgun...
NatoFX (2 months ago)
It is super underrated
mshd (2 months ago)
Can you do a video about random FPS drops and freezes?
Rogerandi Noire (2 months ago)
What do you think about the new auto ban system?
Forlorn Fang (2 months ago)
Personally I'm in love with Alibi. I always remind my friends how much I love the Mx4 Storm. Whenever I get multiple kills, I ask them "Have I told you how much I love this gun?" 🤣
ronald heberlein (2 months ago)
Forlorn Fang if maestro didn't also have the ridiculous full auto shotgun then I'd fight you for alibi, oh and I guess his cameras are ok too.
Riku Phantomhive (2 months ago)
3:34 two words ....... flash hider
U Wot M8 (2 months ago)
Isnt extended barel good 4 spawn peak?
Ion Josan (2 months ago)
Did you really need to make this video?
90% smg 10% shotgun meme smg with or without attachments is up to you, all grips and skin or none
The shotgun kills more teammates than enemies
Don Rosmarin (2 months ago)
Shotguns are also great for anchors they can open up strat holes and objectives are almost always very cqc
JGC VALKYRIE (2 months ago)
For me, it usually depends on the map size, but then again I'm very good at closing down around corners etc which is why the ACS 12 is my preferred weapon along with the beast keratos + impacts
szalma94 (2 months ago)
So the conclusion is that Alibi is trash. The holograms don`t fool anybody and the weapon is a peashooter. If the hologram could take over your appearance and weapon attachments/skins entirely and maybe set the hologram in a crouching state then maybe she could be good.
PureRushXevus (2 months ago)
I prefer using the rhino as my primary weapon, then use the shotgun to get people through walls / make holes to shoot through :P Oh, and throwing an explosive fast-ball in someone's crotch is always fun
xProDan1985 (2 months ago)
Mobility would probably be movement whilst aiming down sights
zeyu li (2 months ago)
Well, have you tried to open the entire roof between open open area and bedroom on the skyscrapper and kill with the awesome kreatos
Ozzy Stormzilla (2 months ago)
So the Italian pistols next
Rogue-9 (2 months ago)
Ok
HaZE Taipan (2 months ago)
umm...Rogue-9, just asking for your thought, what do you think Alibi and Maestro's nerf/buff will be? Well...my idea is that Alibi's buff would be that her alibi holograms could either take the form of her current uniform (the one we are equipped with), OR the hologram could be deployed in prone or crouched position , but the nerf will be a lesser tagged duration for the attacker that shoots it , drones passing through it will not be tagged , or -1 decoy. As for Maestro....maybe, the buff could be +1 hit on the uncovered laser plate to destroy it, or no jamming when hit by Twitch's drone, but the nerf could be a -1 evil eye, or reduced range (since it has literally unlimited range). As for the damage.....I still think it is decent enough, as Ubi has made it such a way that it just have enough strength to down an operator before going into overheat. These are my ideas....feel free to trash them.
MartyCon Productions (2 months ago)
The recoil on the ACS12 makes no sense since it's modeled off the AA-12 which has almost zero recoil. It triggers me.
Phoenix YT (2 months ago)
Did you know you can knife a suïcide bomber... Gotta hit him 3 times without letting it explode
Rogue-9 (2 months ago)
Will try it out later
vosskftw (2 months ago)
CHAINS IS IN A PICKLE
Wingi (2 months ago)
i wish the Keratos wouldve gotten the red-dot sight instead of the Bailiff and some bonkers recoil with it, to be a somewhat viable sidearm so if you would decide to bring the ACS for whatever reason, you could do so without being almost useless.
ImDraconLion (2 months ago)
Mobility may mean how fast you equip and aim the weapon
Cozmic Steak (2 months ago)
But isn't Caveira's SPAS-15 also fully automatic?
Cozmic Steak (2 months ago)
Rogue-9 Very very interesting, I personally have never used it but it always seemed to me like it was fully automatic when spectating other players most likely due to its fire rate. But I have another question now: Why would you want to cycle from semi auto to pump action? Is it for jamming purposes kinda like a charging handle? If yes then why didn't they just include a charging handle?
Rogue-9 (2 months ago)
Nope, in game it’s semi auto. Irl it can be switched between semi auto and pump action
MrPlayer1up (2 months ago)
i think the storm is better, but the acs is one of the most satisfying guns i've ever shot in a game.
Cake Knight007 (2 months ago)
Theory: mobility is how fast you run with a weapon. I found this out because all the secondary pistols have a mobility of 42 instead of 50 after the para bellum update where you became faster with pistols. Also shields have more mobility (at least they used to) and they make ops slower. The standard weapons have a mobility of 50 which is the normal speed.
Rogue-9 (2 months ago)
Great theory. I tested this in a video just over a year ago though and it didn’t check out. Also, yes pistols have lower mobility now but shields and some rifles also have lower mobility, which is contradictory. Sadly, right now I think the stat is still broken
OptimisticBleach (2 months ago)
MEMZ
ericofire (2 months ago)
I’m way more interested in the stats on maestros MLG tbh. Also your thoughts on the acog that comes with it
Tuka Luna (2 months ago)
I must have a disability when I get so triggered when Rogue dosent reinforce
Dominic Brunsmeier (2 months ago)
I use acs on maestro because it helps opening walls and lines of sight better than the bailiff. As a weapon though, it's terrible so I use the keratos and after I saw your video on it, I found it it's even more ridiculous than before.
Black Rex (2 months ago)
*NICE AND TIGHT* HueHueHue

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