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What's the better choice: Mx4 or ACS12? Rainbow Six Siege

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The Mad Kitten (6 days ago)
J Yo (9 days ago)
Maestros rifle is a bit nicer if you don’t mind recoil. He’s a better “camper” while Alibi is a solid roamer and can flank with her ability. You’ll have to use an auto shotty if you play RB6. Her pistol is stroong as well. That’s my protip for free: because auto shotties are that cool.
Rowan Martineau (14 days ago)
So, I once had a challenge to get a bunch of Shotgun kills, Needing the renown, I ran the ACS on Alibi. I 1v4d with it, admittedly using the revolver to finish off the last Ash as they where a bit far.
Benjamin Tran (19 days ago)
Too bad Maestro's ALDA is losing it's hip fire ability.... Rip new style
jacob lansman (21 days ago)
I played my second game on Alibi with both the shotguns, because dumb fun. But I prefer the Mx4 Storm if I'm playing seriously.
Miggy Tensavages (22 days ago)
Alibi is best with Mx4. Maestro on the other hand is best with the ACS12. He makes a great anchor with well placed Evil Eyes to guide them into a choke point or kill zone into tight space or close quarters, plus he can eat bullets and with a given Rook or Doc hes more beefy. Also he can buy some time with suppressive fire in door ways or hatches. If you heard an automatic shotgun going off on the end of the door way (rigged with traps) and less than 30 seconds remaining you are going to lose the round 8/10. There is that 2/10 chance they have a good hard breacher that can counter the reach of the ACS12 landing a ranged kill on Maestro. But to each their own, i like to roam with Maestro. Its so rewarding when you flank behind a coordinated team equipped with the ACS12
Hayden Lau (23 days ago)
That is the question
Cahit Eren Can (28 days ago)
Is it just me, or does everyone think that the Italians are the hipfire gods?
The ACS12 is incredibly fun to use
SaintedPlacebo (1 month ago)
Use the AA12 to destroy all the walls in Purple on Skyscraper. Thank me later.
Dark Angel Dreadnought (1 month ago)
If this gun was realistic (no recoil and ~600 rpms) it would be so broken
Patrick Sullivan (1 month ago)
Budderman83 (1 month ago)
not gonna lie, the acs12 is hella fun.
The shufler (1 month ago)
watching your vid about the damage drop off gave me a headache
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
The only way to tackle that is desensitization. Watch one of my stat videos a day for the next 3 months and by the end of it, you will be used to them.
Landite The killer (1 month ago)
I like to bring a mx4 and think it’s amazing. Then I bring the baliff so I can mold the map. That way I get good prisma. Then there’s the shotgun I think it is practical garbage. It just has to much recoil and not enough damage. That’s why you never see anyone use it.
Alex T.P. (1 month ago)
I run the acs-10 as a secondary and the kertabos as a primary
CalciumGoodness (1 month ago)
I wonder whether mobility has an effect on ads time.
CalciumGoodness (1 month ago)
Alright, thanks
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
It does not
dog o (1 month ago)
Mobility is how fast you can run ads with the weapon so something like an lmg will have carry lower your speed and decrease ads
this is ez,the answer is TO MEME
Ziggy Zaggy (1 month ago)
I got a 4k using the meratos and meme shotty and a 3k on enemies on some stairs so yea i think it is pretty good
Moritz Rossbroich (1 month ago)
"We all know that the average distance for kills is below 10 metres!" *Galz: laughs in russian*
FinHunter 6 (1 month ago)
Nice and tight
OverComing Pyro (1 month ago)
please, meme it.
Speedy (1 month ago)
I feel that the acs should be under meme and the sag under not to meme in the thumbnail
Phil Borgen (1 month ago)
Nothing beats the wall deleter at having a good time but for TriHard purposes there's not really any option here
BATTLEWOLF578 GAMING (1 month ago)
Alibi Main with ACs12 Guilty here
Dragon Blooded (1 month ago)
Do people still not know what mobility is It's the speed that you can run with the gun eqiped pistols are the lowest so you should run with pistols
Jade Rabbit (1 month ago)
Hey rouge i been using the AA12 since the op grim sky update and it feels a lot better, do you think it got buff?
Illyaas Ibnluqman (1 month ago)
The shotgun is good on plane thats it.
Lon3Wolf65 (2 months ago)
11:20 That hipfire flick, tho
KopSer (2 months ago)
Music from payday in the end Good
DA FOIL (2 months ago)
I thought the meme gun was the mxstorm cuz u can pretend to be a hologram ... :/
Doot Doot (2 months ago)
Sometimes you gotta remember the psychology behind some of the situations, people tend to turn and run when they hear the big auto shotgun shooting at them despite the mediocre stats because of the sound design behind it. It sounds powerful and people tend to perceive it as that even if it isn’t exactly the case. That’s why it’s a lot of fun flanking as Alibi with the big dumb shotgun
LD Torres (2 months ago)
Theres always alot of numbers
Geo Shot (3 months ago)
Lexton Ravaee (3 months ago)
Show us more game play of the shot gun and not jackal
Ello Hi (3 months ago)
How do you have 200 health???
Chavon James (3 months ago)
@rogue9 #whatevenismobility I think it has to mean your movement speed such as ADS, your speed as 3,2,&1 speed which includes your lean speed, going prone, and not tie in with your turn time and threshold (x/y axis speed)
Lord Gestrüpp (3 months ago)
I tried the acs12 with angled grip so you don't have to. Don't do it, not even a little bit worth it in any way.
Silver1989 (3 months ago)
I think the Extended Barrel is worth it on any roamer if you peek outside enough.
Silver1989 (3 months ago)
•R9 advertises app bounty •has used many things that seem to offer the same thing and they're usually scams •It's Rogue 9 though...
I play games (3 months ago)
A s is a great ambush weapon because it requires no aim. As a defender I jumped out of the garage on Oregon and killed 3 players repelling and one montage by point and hold
Why would you aim down sights with the ACS12
Yayo' Ariowibowo (3 months ago)
Give the ACS12 some HE rounds
typical panda (3 months ago)
U sound like a d-tec David Attenborough that takes drugs and has forgotten his wife is locked in the basement
Ario (3 months ago)
Ill say fuck this just use Maestros LMG
KILLJOY84THEMAST er (3 months ago)
Inferior hahahahah I rock echos and hibanas shotgun and come out with at least 3 kills every round so pls don't call shotguns inferior it's just the people useing them
I tried the LMG and the recoil wasnt manegable for me so i tried the shotgun ,but little did i know the recoil could break maestro's hand
Masked Reaper00 (3 months ago)
"The first fully automatic shotgun the ACS12" he says ignoring what the spetsnaz has for shotguns
Chibuike Franklin (3 months ago)
Mobility is how fast you can move with the gun in your hand 50-max 0-turtle
Lykos AKUMA (3 months ago)
Rogue,,, haha good game. you don't know me but if yo remember TrxshAimR6... thas me
ElderChargeDragon 1414 (3 months ago)
Is it just me or does rogues voice sound like the natural geographic narrator guy...
MadPlayz (3 months ago)
12:43 The aa-12 is probably a very good addition if you're defending kids bedroom.
pokecraft king (3 months ago)
Is it possible to have a similar video but with maestro's primary weapons?
Tahmeed Khan (3 months ago)
Mx4 is so underpowered
Jarvan IV. (3 months ago)
Colonizer-Chan (3 months ago)
https://youtu.be/siOEEOTjGqM Ah, yes, very realistic recoil.
Californian Ranger (3 months ago)
Mobility is how fast you movd with the weapon in hand
Snakevenom 24297 (3 months ago)
personally i like the mx4 with reflex vertical and suppressor, as i have the recoil mastered, and can consistently hit headshots with the suppressor on, and it sounds cool😂
Verbose Mode (3 months ago)
I am very annoyed by the ACS footage all being of other operators.
GamingPrime (3 months ago)
How did he have so much health on custom games
scalpingsnake (3 months ago)
Anyone know the music at the start of the video?
Underdose (3 months ago)
When you put shotguns which in real life are totally viable at over 40 meters and put them in a game where the average kill distance is like 20 meters, unless u you want insanelky overpowered shotguns you need to make them terrible. They work in battlefield because its huge and open and has bullet drop, siege is another ballpark
Fat Dragon (3 months ago)
Am I the only one who thinks frost’s smg is amazing cuz it has decent damage, and basically no recoil?
Noside Noside (3 months ago)
laser: "someone's aiming here"
Strange Individual (3 months ago)
Hey rouge can you test the difference between the para 308 and the M249 for capitol because in game they have the same RPM and damage and with the recent recoil changes to the para 308 I would like to see the difference
Strange Individual (3 months ago)
Thanks fan of your vids for a long time :)
Rogue-9 (3 months ago)
Good idea. will add it to my list!
Ruben Chapman (3 months ago)
Can you do a video on the viability of single fire, like you did with the burst fire video. Plllllleeeaaasssseee.
Noriael Gamer (3 months ago)
Gotta love the obvious murder of realism for balance. The ACS12 is still has the AA12's system. It shouldn't have ANY recoil. But 'Realism' Amiright?
Edward Nguyen (3 months ago)
Rouge 9 I have a question, what do you sound like when you rage?
Kyle Kalagher (3 months ago)
Any airsofts in here? R9 sounds just like Tim from RWA? Right!
Alexsir75 (3 months ago)
Or play a character that has a gadget that actually does something useful.
MrRocketman88 (3 months ago)
Always enjoy your content. I dropped a message on your Facebook not sure you can read it but I don't use Twitter. I shall post it here as well mind as it uses your famous spreadsheet data to make a new game mode in siege xD
MrRocketman88 (3 months ago)
I have made a tactical game mode based around in game. Let me know what you think. The game mode is based on a credit system each operator in the game is given a credit value between 10-50. These values are worked out using the average DPS values of the primary guns an operator has access to including the machine pistols at 10m. These average DPS values are then multiplied by a value created using the pick rate and win rate values provided by ubisoft. This creates a score and I put the scores Into 5 categories which represent credit values. The distribution isn't evenly spread as operators are placed based on score. The teams can then only pick operators without exceeding the credit allowance ( 30 X the number of players on your team). I have found the operators with the high credit values reflect the current meta. I have played it on custom games and it makes for very interesting gameplay as teams are forced to discuss who to use as they have a spending limit. It also forces people to not pick the usual suspects or ops they are good with. It's interesting as everyone knows not all operators are equal and some provide more to the table. If you like the idea I can provide a little more info :).
Luke Paschall (3 months ago)
I noticed how you said that you said muzzle break should he used on most guns. Could you explain to me why? That would be great thanks.
Stiffbus 101 (3 months ago)
Can u talk about glaz's new recoil
wmoros (3 months ago)
Oof (3 months ago)
12 gage shotgun has less damage than a 9mm, pretty realistic I would say 👌
LinkinPark4Ever1996 (3 months ago)
7:30 did you forget that the laser rule for a tighter hipfire spread no longer affect shotguns? It got removed months ago, except for Buck's shotgun
Happy the Cat (3 months ago)
Gonna have to disagree on who should use the AA-, er, ACS-12, Alibi's decoys have the vanilla Mx4, so having the shotgun really stands out. Maestro however is going to spend as much time as he can on point in his cams, so when he has to engage it will be on point, where you're gonna be pretty close range most of the time, unless you're doing something like shooting across the basement of Clubhouse. So, with the shotty he's kinda equipped like Smoke, except for their guns traded their full auto and 1-2 hit kill properties. But that's Not to say you really should ever bring the AA-12 out, but if you do it should be with the op who doesn't have to rely on their primary gun to be effective in a round. Simple as that.
Declan Williams (3 months ago)
What do you think of a castle buff that changes his barricades into a bulletproof automatic door which only opens for defenders that can be blown up. Glaz would not be able to shoot through them however Thatcher could temporarily disable the automatic opening and closing of the doors for defenders. Dokkeabi could also possibly hack the doors allowing the doors to open for attackers however I personally think this could make these new barricades obsolete.
Ethan Tufts (3 months ago)
I loved your video about the best shotgun in the game that you made a while back but i would love to see a similar video for Assault Rifles or SMG's. I would love to find out the best assualt rifle in the game.
ian scott (3 months ago)
I want to see if its possibe to spawnkill with the acs-12
Rogue-9 (3 months ago)
shotguns have a 40 max range (after that they do 0 dmg). they also don't have a headshot multiplier, so no one shot kills. and the spread means that you will very quickly only land a single pellet with every shot, for very low damage. the bottom line is, no. it's almost impossible to spawn kill with any shotgun except the BOSG
Marlow (3 months ago)
Become a narrator
Iain Mccarthy (3 months ago)
Can we get a best pistol in the game
jbrockgaming (3 months ago)
But on spawn peed I Didn't seen any damages dropped
Billy Alvizo (3 months ago)
Isnt appbounty a scam lmao
Rogue-9 (3 months ago)
I get sponsorship offers almost every day and turn down almost all of them. The ones I do accept are checked thoroughly first. I am aware of the Drift0r video, in which he calls these kind of Apps "child labour scams" but I personally do not see how he can draw such a conclusion. Besides this, both Apple and Google are extremely careful about which apps are allowed to be listed in their stores. This app is available in both stores and will have gone through a rigorous screening process. If you have any personal experience with this App that you want to make me aware of, please do!
poompaka 23 (3 months ago)
Kind of out of the blue question, but would consider doing an updated pistol guide for all the pistols currently in the game?
Andrea Colombo (3 months ago)
In my opinion the acs-12 is an very good when facing more than one enemy because of its rate of fire and mags size
MetalBlizzard (3 months ago)
This was such a concise video, as always. I love Alibi, she's my favorite roamer. When I roam I prefer the Mx4 for the range, if I anchor I find the utility of the ACS12 matched with the Keratos pistol allows her to be quite useful. Great video! Random question, as someone who is trying to make videos for youtube, do you have any advice you would give? Your videos are like a r6 siege textbook, I feel like you would also have great advice for youtube content creation! Thanks
Faceless Fox (3 months ago)
Rogue 9 can you test that can you kill when you enter from a window
the one from no one (3 months ago)
I don't want to brag or anything but I personally think I got the first ace with alibi shotgun but I don't know and yes that shotgun is very op in the right hands
Samli (3 months ago)
I use the shotgun just so it forces me to use the Rhino which is extremely underestimated
Game Lover (3 months ago)
Didnt expect such a serious topic from rouge 9
Some random Dude (3 months ago)
Who else doesn’t run any attachments on the MX4
JxeWarren - (3 months ago)
Doesn’t matter, she’s shit either way
Mathijs Hermans (3 months ago)
* Equips AA12 shoots all walls objective, Throws AA12 out the window and uses Rhino for the rest of the game. EZ diamond. Tbh i dont even play alibi
Airwipe (3 months ago)
Chandler Smith (3 months ago)
I don't care how good you are even when people say you aren't the best. I'd still love to play with you but I'm a console pleb
Sam Tobio (3 months ago)
Ela has a full auto shotgun...
NatoFX (3 months ago)
It is super underrated
dayi53 (3 months ago)
Can you do a video about random FPS drops and freezes?

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