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Extended Barrel - Still Pointless? (Blood Orchid update)

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In this video, I conduct tests and analysis to find out how the new Blood Orchid damage drop-off model has affected the extended barrel in Rainbow Six Siege. Is it still as pointless as it was before or has anything significant changed? And what about Ela's FO-12 shotgun? Does the extended barrel have any kind of significant impact on its killing capability? All tables from the video: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QF72f4Bm7PfbWeSWbl8R8uL0mOzXpG_1vOjqEjXcFGk/edit#gid=186280136 Join us on Discord! https://discord.gg/GFbWWhC More Rogue-9! R6 Gun Guides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7b_pqdIu5g&list=PLP2MwDk1r3q1A8z3g9f0OFj2O2sMLMVOa Battlefield 1: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP2MwDk1r3q3F7Oj-hF0EFFma-l2hy5UD Live Video Game Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjSGl2CT2E&list=PLP2MwDk1r3q2f2N3hSnY0aeywbUk9KbXh&index=1 Music: "Hoedown" - by Audionautix ( http://audionautix.com) "Scheming Weasel faster" - by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) "Happy Strummin" - by Audionautix ( http://audionautix.com) "Call to Adventure" - by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) "Baelfire" - by MDK (https://mdkofficial.bandcamp.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
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Rogue-9 (1 year ago)
0:50 EB for rifles and SMGs 3:10 EB for the FO-12 4:16 discussion of usefulness (rifles) 8:00 discussion of usefulness (FO-12)
Joel Atwater (20 days ago)
PLEASE DO THIS VIDEO AGAIN. I feel that the damage drop off has changed greatly since Blood Orchid and would also be curious to know if the damage drop off is different on console.
Notas Salty (5 months ago)
Rogue-9 is
Petroskoi (7 months ago)
Rogue-9 ?
Retarded Marco ;P (7 months ago)
Rogue-9 a
Enerader (9 months ago)
Rogue-9 thank you at first for all your hard work! In this video you pointed out that the Para-308 has a slighty special pattern to it. How is this now after the recent buff on the Para? Is the extended barrel a real option now for the para? Thanks !! Greeting from Germany ;)
Gerald Yurek III (11 days ago)
What's a rouge 9 video without a spreadsheet?
Hater Just not a (27 days ago)
Is that still valid???
TaylorsStuff (1 month ago)
If only pistols had extended barrel... *LUISON*
Eros Creations (1 month ago)
Ehm maybe it's a year later, but I must comment this now. So we all know that the m12 has a very bad dps from all of the guns, but if you attach the extended barrel at the further is the distant it's dps is going to get better from all other full-auto weapons... Yeah probably you won't have a lot of gunfigth with caveira to over 35 meters, but the whole point for the m12 is that is for long range, with youn can barely kill with the lusion. Also it has a very-very low recoil, so even without any other barrel attachment it works perfectly...
Jan Kowal (2 months ago)
Zaqq (2 months ago)
8:15 actually in real life barrel length on a shotgun has almost no impact on spread
Cake Masterz Games (2 months ago)
8:10 does any1 notice smg-10? i wonder if its better than smg-11&12... i know rouge just messed up don't judje my humor
To Guud (2 months ago)
So for cav should I take the eb off or just keep it on
jamjar57 (3 months ago)
Great video, very detailed. Subbed!!
Hugh Jass (3 months ago)
That pronunciation of Ela made me shiver
Ecks Dee (3 months ago)
el ah not EEE lah
golferchin76 (4 months ago)
compensator, compensator, compensator....
Not pointless just not very good at cqb
A1pha Ch3rnovak (4 months ago)
1:36 on which operator do i use the smg10? (lol)
Awoo (4 months ago)
Everything in the video is wrong. The extended barrel is superior because it's make the gun l o n g b o i s
Alec Ingram (5 months ago)
Fun fact: in real life, a ling barrel on a shotgun has no effect on spread and nearly none on velocity, because of the faster burning powder used. A longer barrel means more weight and better swing, and also more front heavy usually meaning less recoil with the same load. A choke is the device that tightens the spread, and they have many variations.
HoundofCulann (24 days ago)
well technically a long barrel acts also as a choke when compared to a shorter barrel by virtue of the pellets being contained for a longer distance, but the difference is too small to hold any practical importance.
- Kloak3d - (5 months ago)
btw great video
- Kloak3d - (5 months ago)
its ela not eela
Cyrex Gaming (6 months ago)
It only useful on the p90 for rook
TheDawsonator1 (6 months ago)
So what about now? Ela's shotgun has a choice of Silencer or Extended Barrel and well...
Billbo Baggins (7 months ago)
1:41 SMG 10 new gun confirmed!
laiion (7 months ago)
Talking about extended barrel lenghts giving away positions while the red spot from a laser sight is ''unlikely to be seen'' ... ok
Tishues (7 months ago)
7:20 lol
Seamus Aindriu O'Coran (7 months ago)
Rogue-9 uses the red dot right..... *TRIGGERED*
The Great Zethandrapus (7 months ago)
Ngl your research and explanation is why I watch these you are a very inquisitive person and that's what makes you stick out wouldn't watch anyone over you ly bb 😘
The Great Zethandrapus (7 months ago)
Your dedication and effort amazes and inspires me
Ilija (7 months ago)
you're a hero
Mercy Wolff (7 months ago)
Does the EMP guys grenades go through walls?
Sihang Shao (8 months ago)
IRL a suppresser is just a EB with benefit
Just The Dude (8 months ago)
"Jarvis, Less Monotone Narration Edition" drops more knowledge. +1
flamedude87able (8 months ago)
Goosey Boy Gavin (8 months ago)
Ela has a shotgun?
Grayson Coss (8 months ago)
Just a heads up at 8:25 you said a longer barrel on a shotgun tightens patterns in real life and thats only true on Choke-less bore barrel. If a shotgun can use a choke then barrel length doesn't affect spread what so ever only the choke. So basically all the shotguns in siege must use chokes unless its just an oversight by dev team. Maybe we will get a choke attachment on shotguns lol
kamikazemelonman (8 months ago)
Great content
Hugo Esson (8 months ago)
I like having extended barrel on frost's smg
8bitLgend (9 months ago)
The Damage drop off for the UMP may be due to them attempting to mimic the sudden and often rapid drop off in accuracy/ bullet velocity that .45 acp experiences when it drops to subsonic speeds. The longer barrel means the powder has longer time to burn pushing the bullet forward resulting in a higher muzzle velocity and thus a longer effective range but at the same time due to .45's weight and bullet shape a harsher drop off.
esperCELL (9 months ago)
why dont the game dev just stick to the damn description? "provide full damage over longer distance" this is really stupidly retarded.
1:50 at the bottom SMG-10?
Porter Hitman (9 months ago)
Did he just say "eelas shotgun"? Are you serious? Who says it like that?
Edward Bennett (9 months ago)
Now the extended barrel as this long as description look "Provides the full damage over longer distance range, which offers you more options in terms of positioning to take down your opponents" I think the extended barrel needs a new model...
Just us (10 months ago)
Matt (10 months ago)
How many licks does it take to finish a tootsie pop?
Moon Emoji (10 months ago)
Why can’t it just be as simple as like 10%+ damage or 5%+ accuracy for example.... :(
Jodv (10 months ago)
In conclusion, Run Muzzle Break.
Catioi Cat (10 months ago)
I use it for the looks
Karma Akabane (10 months ago)
2 words. Holy shit.
My name is 🅱️
Aaron Arquette (10 months ago)
extended barrel on cavs luision would be sick
sexysheep :P (10 months ago)
It's ela ( eh - la) not (ee - la)
mm Eclipse mm (10 months ago)
The rounds shot during testing were in the shape of a 5
Nocthe Medic (10 months ago)
I use it cuz it looks sexy as shit on the MVP
Companion Cube (10 months ago)
Gotta love the MDK outros
like a boz (10 months ago)
I find the extended barrel to be very useful on Caveira's M12. I normally run the M12 so I can do runouts, flanks, and peaks, and past about 20 meters will opt for it over the pistol. I find the increased damage the long barrel offers to be more benificial than recoil reducing attachments, as the M12 has so little recoil they make no difference. Also, the extended visual length doesn't bug me, as at the distance where it is visible I will be using the pistol.
Magnum Dong (10 months ago)
Hi rogue! Is it alright if you cover the extended barrel for op white noise please?
Colonizer-Chan (11 months ago)
The real reason the barrels are extended is so the atf doesn't kill puppies over a 15.9 inch barrel.
Flavio Niederhauser (11 months ago)
buut it looks cooool
Sukki Blue (11 months ago)
Tortoisetanks (11 months ago)
One interesting fact about the siege shotguns is that they load in birdshot for whatever reason, yet get the damage of buckshot
Yawyna124 (7 months ago)
Er, what? Presumably they're using double-aught buck, because they're shooting 8 pellets, and double-aught is 8 pellets an ounce. With the largest type of birdshot pellet you can conventionally get or usually use, FF, that's 35 steel pellets per ounce, way higher than the 8 pellets that the shotguns are shooting in siege. The Smallest number of pellets you can get per ounce with birdshot would be lead F pellets, at 27 pellets per ounce. Once again, way higher than any of the shotguns in siege are shooting. If you wanna get real small, #10 birdshot has 848 lead pellets per ounce.
Rogue-9 (11 months ago)
+Chef Boyardank they shoot 8 pellets
Hiby. (11 months ago)
1:36 dayum look at the r4-c , the damage stays high af with extended barrel! Imma use the extended barrel on the r4-c now lol
Junky Enoshims (11 months ago)
Rogue-9: Doing the testing so Ubisoft doesn’t have to
Unknown Studios (11 months ago)
I put extended on FO 12 and it is beast
János Obszidi (11 months ago)
2:08 Smg11 Smg10
Not a Jäger main (11 months ago)
Should i still use the extended barrel for the p90?
Switch Kick (11 months ago)
This game really should have had chokes for shotguns
Tursaansydän 1488 (2 months ago)
Switch Kick why? Even a chokeless shotgun doesnt have a spread as high as the shotguns of siege... Just tighten the spread pattern and maybe buff 3 armor and 2 armor shotgun pellet resistance or something like that.
Nearly Evil 665 (11 months ago)
yo rogue i almost thougt you had a vacation or something but turns out, i got unsubbed from you for whatever reason what will i ever do without your relentless numbercrunching
Rogue-9 (11 months ago)
argh, why does YouTube even do that?!?!
JV Created (1 year ago)
you deserve more subs and credit
SepticWolf Gamer (1 year ago)
They really need to reconsider when giving us the option for an extended barrel. They need to buff it. I don't care how much as long as it makes the difference.
Redstoneary (1 year ago)
At 1:40 you labeled the regular SMG-11 as SMG-10
Rogue-9 (1 year ago)
+Redstoneary not me! Excel auto corrected... to be fair, I could have noticed it though...
clorox bleach (1 year ago)
I use it on the m12
Oscar (1 year ago)
just aim for the head.
Rogue-9 (1 year ago)
shotguns don't get a headshot bonus in R6 tho
Isaac lichtenstein (1 year ago)
Rogue-9 is essentially the best thing for a gaming community. Like. People like him add so much value to games? When there's a guy in the trenches fucking testing all the random shit and making videos about it? Being a beacon in the community for people to rally around. I really appreciate all that you do for us, man. Also... Insurgency and Day of Infamy need someone like you! There's so much weird shit in those games that no one understands. And it'd be nice to have someone to really develop the meta and stuff.
Khaled Shehadeh (1 year ago)
1:53 just pointing out a mistake SMG 11* not 10
Rogue-9 (1 year ago)
indeed, excel was a little too clever for me there and automatically incremented the number when I dragged down SMG-10 😅
Neves7561 (1 year ago)
I miss Air plane in ranked...
MANBEAREPTAR (1 year ago)
He reported it as a bug to ubisoft. Lol. Will they ever read it?
Rogue-9 (1 year ago)
+MANBEAREPTAR they do actually. They always respond to let me know it's under investigation 😉
Nils Niemeier (1 year ago)
easy way to test shotgun dmg, punch a hole in 2 walls (straight line) and shoot threw them. The second wall will absorb all the Pellets except for the one threw the holes. (reminder: 1 Shotgun pellet is hitting the exact same spot ur aiming at)
ranpo677 (1 year ago)
Damn was hoping they changed it with the update, thanks for your research into it. At least we got new servers lol
DrewPeacock (1 year ago)
Is this accent exaggerated? ;D
DrewPeacock (1 year ago)
Rogue-9 I guess you’re right ;D keep up the great content
Rogue-9 (1 year ago)
+Applehead I don't know what I would gain from putting on an accent... given that half my viewers are from the US, maybe I should try out an American accent 😆
Haerknox (1 year ago)
didnt know that hila was in rainbow
Radar Lund (1 year ago)
I always use the extended barrel and angled grip on the ump because the recoil is close to nothing
Wrathful Snail (1 year ago)
Why do people keep calling Ela Eela?
Novafireblaze (1 year ago)
What about bucks shotgun
Nick Floyd (1 year ago)
I like eelas shotgun 😂
Extanded barrel is always better because if ur good and control recoil u dont need the other attachments
J Cook (1 year ago)
I just wanna say thank you kind sir for not only doing your homework, but showing how you acquired said information. Good work man. Keep it up, learning a lot here.
easterncracker4 (1 year ago)
I miss playing on plane in ranked
Moist Potato (1 year ago)
SMG-10 huh (1:45)
Rogue-9 (1 year ago)
+Pingu Destroyer excel auto fill being to clever for its own good. "You're dragging a cell with 11 back by one? You must want it to be a 10!"
ericsbuds (1 year ago)
does using the extended barrel increase recoil at all?
ericsbuds (1 year ago)
Rogue-9 (1 year ago)
not compared to no attachment
ericsbuds (1 year ago)
great vid!
Rogue-9 (1 year ago)
LetSwine4222 (1 year ago)
Its not useless it makes your guns look sweet as shit so its basically the best attachment in the game
Crossano (1 year ago)
I am a up and coming streamer if someone could check out my twitch @Crossano it would be a god send.
bandiclout (1 year ago)
I feel like Ubisoft just puts random numbers on everything and then go *_Alright that looks good moving on to the cosmetics now._*
Kaiman JIG (6 months ago)
Same with cosmetics, I see some epics cost less than rares.
Caleb Reynolds (7 months ago)
Spectre 44 that would be funny but they don’t even do that anymore. They stopped giving previous season gun camos, uniforms or helmets to new ops and their guns, instead you get one to five custom cosmetics at most. Once siege became popular they just half assed it to make it an EA-Money Whore style game.
Th l (1 year ago)
Spectre 44 lmao
TheKradok (1 year ago)
I dont get why ubisoft goes trough all the trouble of making the game mechanics for the extended barrel while they dont even balance the different attachments.
magiclessquibbles (1 year ago)
tamel1975 (1 year ago)
El a
Rage Piglet (1 year ago)
who is ila
Khonic (1 year ago)
I usually laugh when I see people rocking an extended barrel, it's always a gold or silver player lol
Travis B (1 year ago)
In other news... Trump is breathing
Chase Johnson (1 year ago)
Either way for the same reason people consider the next update for kapkan as a nerf this is still just as useless i admire the time you put into the video rogue but still headshot are what this game is built around doing damage might be helpful for a player coming into siege but for an experienced player accuracy is everything and trading accuracy is just not worth it which makes the extended barrel useless
daswareinfach_ (1 year ago)
After this Video i main pulse now with extended barrel and angled grip

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