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Map Updates in Grim Sky - Rainbow Six Siege

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I have taken a top down view at the new Hereford Base map in Operation Grim Sky, as well as the changes to the Consulate map. Surprisingly, there are far more parallels between the old and the new Hereford Base than I would have expected from playing the map. So let's go take a closer look and if you've been playing these maps, what are your thoughts on the changes? Comment below! If you want to share any of your Grim Sky Highlights, chuck them up on YouTube and send me an email to [email protected] and maybe I will be able to feature you in an upcoming video! Join me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/RogueN9 Twitch! https://www.twitch.tv/rogue9 Discord! https://discord.gg/rogue-9 Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/Rogue.9er More Rogue-9! Far Cry 5 Gun Guides: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP2MwDk1r3q1Tyy1AbOTsoSmxwQCGgE-z R6 Gun Guides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7b_pqdIu5g&list=PLP2MwDk1r3q1A8z3g9f0OFj2O2sMLMVOa Battlefield 1: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP2MwDk1r3q3F7Oj-hF0EFFma-l2hy5UD R6 Gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKnUwutkY4Q&list=PLeLOiIl8YNCy2RDJgY4rXRRgZ_v1T2SRg Member of Disrupt Gaming! Website: http://disrupt.gg/main Twitter: https://twitter.com/DisruptGG YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDeIXDNV4CE3DTjiNnt24NQ Music: Murder by Soulji from Monstercat Uncaged Vol. 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH4OeB5cSfM
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Babushka (2 hours ago)
those were 2 20mm hispanos tho..not one and a 50. cal
wesley rowland (3 days ago)
yet they haven't repaired the garage vault glitch...
Blade Hunter (8 days ago)
It sucks
ItzMP5K (9 days ago)
BRING BACK THE OLD HEREFORD BASE. I hate the new one.
that 1 genji main (12 days ago)
(Little tip) if you your team defending basement then you pick a roamer go to the top floor on the north east corner there is a breakable floor and under that floor is the hay storage area you can break the floor and kill anyone pushing hay storage... just a cheeky angle i learned when i was exploring the map when it first came out
Mataviejitas 13 (12 days ago)
I hate that Buggysoft is making maps darker, i like the vivid feeling of old maps, new maps are more like straight out of a horror movie.
Goblin Slayer (19 days ago)
How did you get that map overview mode Rogue?
Oscar Mancio (19 days ago)
I actually don't like the new map. To be honest I would have preferred to see the old Hereford base kept in casual (cause it was really fun playing there), and a new map or the reworked one in ranked (cause for how more competitive it is, it just isn't fun playing there). This is my thought. To be fair tho, I would have liked more to see a map for the polish operators (they never got one, and a rework of Bartlett university wouldn't be that difficult). Change map rotations aswell pls. Last month I have been playing on Tower and Park only
The Oppressor (21 days ago)
oh thank god another person that likes planes and the specifics of their armaments and configurations.
Vasil Zahariev (27 days ago)
I think they changed the aesthetics too much. I sometimes feel lost when I play this map.
Flamingo Sexylegs (1 month ago)
All the map is in my mind as a defender. " Will they come from the stairs?? hatches?? or Thousands of windows and breachable walls?!? " Too much of the map is ( or can be )exposed is my issue
THE UNDEAD PYRO (1 month ago)
Boy oh boy i have some clash aces and plays.
Kyle Bezemer (1 month ago)
For Consulate you didn't mention that they removed parts of the railing above the garage to help rotating above the garage wall
Frost Arki (1 month ago)
cool outro there
F14R3ing (1 month ago)
Thanks for teaching me about the plane
Matt Shelton (1 month ago)
Took me 4 or 5 rounds to get accustomed to new Hereford, and I love the changes. Also, your outro is dope.
Old PartyDave (1 month ago)
Hey R9, can you do a video about the huge nerf of the machine pistols?
Micheal Feuerborn (1 month ago)
How do you get a Top-down view like this? I have tried to find this function online but was unable to. Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to do this? Thank you
Dib Spicer (1 month ago)
I mean spawn peeking is stupid and annoying but it's a viable tactic
Dib Spicer (1 month ago)
+Rogue-9 I do agree
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
True. I think the problem arises when the attackers are funnelled down certain routes but the defenders have 3, 4 or even more windows they can peek from. It creates an imbalanced fight where one team only has to watch one spot and the other has to choose between different ones
petekron (1 month ago)
I just want a map that isn't dark as fuck or doesn't have a tint that makes everything the same coulor. Is that too much to ask?
feha92 (1 month ago)
The issue with the remake is that they took away exactly the parts about it that made it so fun in an unique way. Wasn't any other map quite like it, and now it instead feels more like a combination of villa, and theme park, with stairways looking like they came from club house, combined into something that makes an entirely new map, effectively removing the old one and only keeping the name. They removed the linearity of vertical movement being stuck on a single stairway, apart from the outside one. They removed the doorway straight into 2f-3f stairway? It's no longer a charming cube of cement (the tacked on bits, particularly the hay storage, mess so much with my sense of direction as an attacker...). The lighting is much less appealing and often darker, and so are the textures (brick instead of cement? really? Feels more like villa than herreford base...). The basement, with most of the fighting being about outside walls and open areas with plenty of breakable walls to the few rooms, is now much more boring, and similarly the nice ladder one could drop down is gone. The straightness of the map was exchanged for loads of twists and turns, most noticeable on the 1st floor corridor that was such a charming spot for gunfire to be exchanged throughout the entire map, to the outside. It feels larger in its entirety, instead of the nice minimalistic feel of the prior version. Overall feels like its way less breakable terrain both in terms of walls and floors, making defence more about doorways than creativity. What I would have liked to see changed, is perhaps a little bit more hatches, and looking over its spawn-peeks (but keep the fun gameplay of positions for attackers to peek into the building from outside) as they were still too common. The south-eastern objective on floor one needed some retouching too, as defenders had to give up too much if the outer wall were breached (which is guaranteed post-maverick), essentially losing *all* (except for one) positions that had less than 2 angles from outside the room, and no longer any with none. While moving out of the room to hold it from was not a good option, as attackers had a covered position inside the objective from that new entrance. The ability to move inside the room was locked down entirely too, as there were multiple angles to hit anyone moving from the rare few acceptable spots that was left.
Lust (1 month ago)
Nice choice for the outro song, one of my favorites.
Sophis Helmer (1 month ago)
I don’t even think the new map is balanced enough for pro league or maybe even ranked, but if Ubisoft is proud of it anyways I guess it’s fine.
Egemen İpek (1 month ago)
map design ideology = put shit ton of rooms
illegal tacos (1 month ago)
I don't care if it's more competitive I don't think it's nearly as fun as before. I miss old hereford
Sierra John (1 month ago)
what website/software are you using to see the maps like that ?
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
you can start a custom local game and chose: create game as observer
ArcBird (1 month ago)
I've played around 100 rounds on the new map and, it's now my favourite, really good design imo, very well balanced and engaging with so many options on both sides.
Pabelotski 1102 (1 month ago)
I would like it if they made it a separate map so people could still play the original
Gustavo Castaneda (1 month ago)
Your videos are recommended by the AI Sam thing on ubisoft club and it makes me happy 😂
SirMrNick (1 month ago)
Anybody notice they changed the fireplace in the top floor bedroom of chalet? It has a grate now in the front that prevents valk cams from going inside. :(
Huxaa Channel (1 month ago)
I miss bartlet university because it was fun map actually
Huxaa Channel (1 month ago)
Black Keybinds better than white
BattleNoobXD (1 month ago)
Rouge your beautiful you play warthunder?
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
I've not tried it yet
zmkd co (1 month ago)
I would bet that Hereford 2015 was the very first map they designed (or House). It's small, and not really designed with much strategy in mind. As we know now, it's trivial to shut down rotations on a map that only has one staircase and not many hatches. Hereford 2018 is more competitive, and I look forward to playing on it. However, I'm disappointed by some trends I'm seeing. 1. The same visual style we've seen in Theme Park and Villa. It doesn't feel as crisp as older maps. It feels bloated, like I'm playing the game with an Instagram filter on, or the developers are deliberately trying to show off either the game engine or the art team. 2. So far this only seems to be a problem with major reworks like Hereford and Clubhouse, but "wall stuffing". They just jam more rooms, walls and other barriers into the map. I'm not hugely concerned, but it feels lazier than actually reworking an entire floor. Perhaps they aim to keep the same "feel" and don't want to change the layout drastically. 3. I see a trend away from vertical play. Coastline was released in February 2017, and was the last map with vertical play being very important. Theme Park has one bomb site where vertical play is a factor. (The pros never play the map). Border and Skyscraper are the only other two maps with vertical play and those were Year 1. I'm guessing it's difficult to make a bomb site defensible while being subject to vertical play.
zmkd co (1 month ago)
I went through Hereford 2018 in a custom game and there is actually an improvement in vertical play from 2015. That's good to see.
MartyCon Productions (1 month ago)
Woah, woah, woah...wait! Tractor storage? It's the 2nd floor! Why is that there?
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
Makes the tractor harder to steal.
Irving Pereira (1 month ago)
old hereford (it's kind of tricky to say old cuz the newer version is chronologically the oldest version but but clarity sake i mean the original map) was my favorite map and a lot had to do with how clear it was concrete walls with solid gray meant perfect visibility at all times, seems like the new one is going to be dark and easier to blend with the environment. OG hereford you will be missed!
RebelEvolution (1 month ago)
All I remember was Clash coming outside at the east big stairs while all other defenders were peaking the windows.
killahomeezy (1 month ago)
Closed my eyes felt like I was listen to planet earth haha 😂😂 great video tho!
CowBoy 177 (1 month ago)
I would totally rather them give us a brand new map and not replacing the old hereford. I actually prefered the old hereford base over this one, just changing it messes with me too much.
Slytiger (1 month ago)
I’d like to see a map change to plane next
Kenneth Machado (1 month ago)
From what i heard plane is just a broken map. The rework of the map would literally just make it a new map and would not have the same feeling to it.
Logan (1 month ago)
Who stores a tractor on a 3rd floor?
Ranger Macgoat (1 month ago)
When it comes to the whole Tachanka situation, I really hope they don't just kill him. There are ways to make him better. One thing they could possibly do would be to remove the tripod he uses and replace it with a bipod. Then he could prone to use it or place it on sandbags or maybe even Mira walls. It would also make the process of placing the lmg much faster, and the added options of where to place it would make Tachanka a lot more mobile. It would also be an easy nerf if he turned out too powerful as they could remove the shield or maybe just add some recoil. Another thing that could be done would be to let him add an optic to the lmg. I think these steps would fix his problems quite easily. At least make them less prominent
Brian Bantel (1 month ago)
Rogue, you would notice the inaccuracies with the spitfires - whereas I learned/noticed/paid attention that there were planes on the map during this video. Great video, as always. Its weird how different it feels playing the new HF Base, yet it seems the changes weren't nearly as "substantial" as it feels. I'm not sure I'm thrilled with the overly red-brown aesthetics of the the map and the top floor feels way to open, but I've enjoyed playing it so far.
SWITS Feral (1 month ago)
Why is Ubi turning siege into a WW2 Fps?
Payton Stuart (1 month ago)
I hate this map. It needs to be taken out of ranked.
TheSpartanGamer (1 month ago)
Oh Rouge, the issues with the Spitfire model are *much* worse than the wrong wing type. The propellers are too short, I think those wings are actually the C-type with two 20mm Hispanos in each wing but regardless of whether they're C-type or E-type the longer barrel should be closer to the fuselage not farther, the wings are far too short, and mounted far too high on the fuselage, the top of the fuselage has this weird convex shape to it that it wouldn't have had, the canopy is far too short and far too wide, the canopy doesn't bulge out like it should, it's got the wrong camo for the Battle of Britain, the landing gear is farther apart than it should be, the wings are too short... There's a littany of issues with the "Spitfires" on New Hereford. To the point where I have no idea where Ubi got these models if they didn't use a reference, and if they did they should tell us what substance their 3D modelers were abusing at the time to somehow have a reference and still make something that looks nothing like a Spitfire
Drew Conrad (1 month ago)
*new map*
Felix Arndt (1 month ago)
IS IT more balanced, though?
Terry Betts (1 month ago)
Attackers are less expoaed. Defenders have more places too hide and scout.
B. Dawg (1 month ago)
Why is there a tractor at the 3rd floor ?
ALT ACCOUNT (1 month ago)
They patched the pixel peak from astronomy boxes to master bathroom on villa
BOY ! (1 month ago)
I don't play casual at all so I haven't played it.
Redd Franzen (1 month ago)
There were times where you were talking about something specific on the map and i got confused on what you were talking about and you kept moving around, is there anyway you could use arrows or something on specifics? Like bathroom and bedroom changed around
arturr5 (1 month ago)
Hey, what tool are you using to get a bird's eye view of the maps like that? Is it only on the tts? Great video btw :)
Clive Goh (1 month ago)
Already managed to play the new hereford map a couple of times. First off it looks absolutely gorgeous. Whenever i could i would take a second just to savour it. That being said there are way too many rooms on this map and it makes it really difficult to clear every single room and to hold down certain angles as well.
cameron lee (1 month ago)
That's such a you response to the spitfires
Teo Politis (1 month ago)
This map is garbage
Matt Barr (1 month ago)
the new hereford is a much more enjoyable and engaging map than the old one. with this one I do not feel dread when i get the top floor site, in fact I think it's my favorite sit to defend
pussygrabber (1 month ago)
Who the fuck stores their tractor on 3rd floor?
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
In the UK, that's what we do. Where else would you put them?
Keladinus Scrub (1 month ago)
Right now, the only defenders who are known for their vertical defense strategies are Pulse, Valkrie, and Lesion. I think we need a defender who's specifically designed for this sort of interaction, the way Buck has become the go-to attacker for taking out Mira through destructible floors. Perhaps it's a defender who can plant proximity mines on ceilings, which trigger from movement both above and below it?
gilet102 (1 month ago)
Keladinus Scrub you mean like Ela she can basically do what you're talking about
Lol Wut (1 month ago)
What's with the old gameplay?
DaBaYzFyNesT (1 month ago)
New Hereford is traaaaashhh
TimeRunner_360 (1 month ago)
This map felt completely new to me. But I did draw some similarities while playing it. Nice video
DANIDIPER 666 (1 month ago)
Realy nice information about thoose spitfires because other people will normaly skip them
Salvi (1 month ago)
Is pulses scanner not scanning properly for anyone else?
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
Seems to be a bug]
Tomek (1 month ago)
can you show your settings cause your game look beautiful
Leviathan's Iris (1 month ago)
the layout may have a decent number of simularities, but it feels like a different map, so different that they really could have just made it a new map instead of taking away one of the fun maps for customs (1v1-3v3). Now we have even less good maps for that as maps are balanced for 5v5
TheyCallMeAfshin (1 month ago)
When Hereford base will come to ranked ?
Dr.purple (1 month ago)
I love the destruction of walls and floors you can do now.
Quazzi (1 month ago)
Loving the outro song
buletwulf (1 month ago)
There has been a response that this map is too "defender-sided". What is your take on this Rogue?
16 megabytes (1 month ago)
why the hell does clashes pistol have 45 mobility and her shield has 28🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
TheCrystalCave (1 month ago)
#whatevenismobilitystat seriously does anyone actually no what that does?
Bacon Boi (1 month ago)
#notmyspitfire
Chris Manos (1 month ago)
Yo i love this new rework but like Why the hell is the tractor room on the third floor youre gonna tell me that they leave a tractor up 3 floors of stairs why
Deppengu (1 month ago)
But I loved the old basement ;-;
Toxic Energy (1 month ago)
If this guy sounds like a robot like my comment
Vitalii Yakhno (1 month ago)
NAME OF OST AT LAST 10 SECONDS PLS
Sansirow (1 month ago)
I don't understand why they are still changing the UI for no reason at all, it was better before and WHY ARE THEY WASTING TIME WITH UI?!
IDK_Y (1 month ago)
I miss the old base
EricArts (1 month ago)
That outro song is bangin'!
Punch Line (1 month ago)
You missed a map change on consulate, above garage door they've gotten rid of some of the rail
Stop.TV (1 month ago)
why didn't u mention that the roundabout on herford is made for driving on the right?!
KrheaKap (1 month ago)
I honestly couldnt have wished for more, on the old map i'd just be bored checking for run outs/spawnpeaks 24/7 and picking off people from the outside as an atacker(which was way too easy) and now i actually had to get into the building and only had 1-3 windows to worry about instead of like 6 and the rotations are pure lemon juice...honestly hats off to ubisoft for that one.
old ass game play
Taylor Eddy (1 month ago)
The inner history buff coming out was perfect. Details.
Strobulator (1 month ago)
What have they done?! #notmyhereford
Santiago Arraya (1 month ago)
Where r u from
Darkkitt PT (1 month ago)
I'm against the consulate night time lighting change, you can barely see the reflex sight and it's my most used sight!
SushiUnz 360 (1 month ago)
New hereford sucks
Najma zenryona (1 month ago)
tbh house needed the rework more than hereford, at least hereford was playable before grim sky.
Hass 770 (1 month ago)
No it wasnt u fucking retard the map was unplayable
luca Danyves Stoelman (1 month ago)
Consulate's new lightning somehow gives me a headache
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Bruno Eye (1 month ago)
I don't like the interior art style. It reminds me of Theme Park too much.
Balázs Cziráki (1 month ago)
I haven't played that much on this map (only 3 or 4 matches), but in the last match I could easily roam around because it was very familiar for me (except the 2nd floor and the basement)
Pelogurek (1 month ago)
Old Hereford = Fun; New hereford = Tacticool; And for me, the old Hereford will be much more preferable, cause the event concentration was so high. Engaging in the new Hereford is boring. The colour and texture pattern now makes me feel like I'm on a Theme Park. Thats not bad, but now the charisma of the map is kinda lost, and all I got instead is something I've already had on other maps. And the last but most unconvinient is this new sound between rounds. Guys, im ok with the Diabolical trill of board being scrathed with nails or two styrofoam chunks being rubed with each other. But this sounds, they make me feel insane. Moreover you cant turn them off in settings menu without damaging your information gathering sources.
SuperWeapons2770 (16 days ago)
I really miss just blasting through all the walls made out of paper and upside down peaking through windows as sledge ):
Mottflyer (25 days ago)
McCoolXParadox -__-  "so you're saying" He wasn't saying that at all, just stating his position on the new map.
Pelogurek (25 days ago)
You know, I may sound terrible, but I'm good with no new maps if they will continue to add maps like Tower, Villa or new Hereford. I don't really like the trends they develop in their map design. I know I'am wrong on so many levels (heh). But I'm just... I just can't find the way to enjoy them.
McCoolXParadox -__- (26 days ago)
So you’re saying instead of the devs fixing old maps they should keep adding new ones till they hit their data cap and we get no new maps?
Mottflyer (1 month ago)
Haze Spectrum  Old Hereford has history with a lot of players, I have many fond memories of Siege on that map. I can't look at new Hereford in the same way as the old one, I don't even consider them to be the same map in any way. Even though old Hereford was unbalanced, I still loved it.
Cryfe (1 month ago)
i honestly liked the old better
SycotikSnowman (1 month ago)
The Spitfire rant, rouge I love you lol
Ian Kennedy (1 month ago)
I wish they kept old Hereford and only put it in casual!
ScoopDaPoop (1 month ago)
Do u know when they will add Hereford to ranked? Ubi said it would be in ranked but it isn’t
AheadArtifact40 (1 month ago)
Still not In ranked lmao

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