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C75 vs. SMG-12: who wins? - Rainbow Six | Siege

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In this video, I test the C75 Auto and the SMG-12 (as well as the SMG-11 & BEARING-9) in Rainbow Six Siege, in terms of damage drop-off, recoil, suppressor advantages / disadvantages, reload speed and more, to find out how they compare to each other. So, what are their strengths and weaknesses and which one is the best? Let's find out! Online stat spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QF72f4Bm7PfbWeSWbl8R8uL0mOzXpG_1vOjqEjXcFGk/edit#gid=0 Join me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/RogueN9 Discord! https://discord.gg/GFbWWhC Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/Rogue.9er More Rogue-9! R6 Gun Guides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7b_pqdIu5g&list=PLP2MwDk1r3q1A8z3g9f0OFj2O2sMLMVOa Battlefield 1: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP2MwDk1r3q3F7Oj-hF0EFFma-l2hy5UD Music: "Call To Adventure" - by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) "Rags 2 Riches Rag" - by Audionautix ( http://audionautix.com) "Happy Strummin" - by Audionautix ( http://audionautix.com) "If I Had a Chicken" - by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) "Monkeys Spinning Monkeys" - by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) "Maverick Hunter" - by MDK (https://mdkofficial.bandcamp.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
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Rogue-9 (9 months ago)
General Stats: 0:36 Damage Stats: 2:22 Attachments & Recoil: 5:14 Suppression Comparison: 7:24 Final Conclusion: 8:37
Lenny Face (2 months ago)
Rogue-9 hi I love the videos however would it be possible in the future to label the graph axis. I know it's a little nitpicky but it might help a little.
No u (2 months ago)
Rogue-9 I
Infinite Stratos (2 months ago)
That's weird. When I use the CZ I suppress it and I get a lazer beam with literally no recoil.
Zachary (2 months ago)
Rogue-9 x
DeadReaper (3 months ago)
Rogue-9 is
Huey Freeman (5 days ago)
Rest in peace secondary sidearms
Pizza Phil (6 days ago)
Rogue 9 needs to redo this video now because of the recoil misalignment patch
BuckyBoi (25 days ago)
I remember when the SMG-11 had the ACOG.
INTODAN (1 month ago)
Nitroith (1 month ago)
Who even needs a gun when you have a knife am i right?
Римский (1 month ago)
На хуя именовать видео по русски, если оно на британском языке?
Anthony Rodriguez (1 month ago)
I've played vigil for tons of hours and never realized the smg-12 was integrally surpressed.
이호진 (1 month ago)
But I use smg11
Smg-11 <3
Kyle Bezemer (1 month ago)
I thought suppressed guns were supposed to not have the bullet trace?
Hyunho Ji (1 month ago)
SMG 12
Mc Nuffin (1 month ago)
Strengths: many. Weaknesses: none. An atrocity of game design. These have no place in the game if not every CTU has access to one.
VSF GETR3KT (1 month ago)
Do u know what’s better then Ubisoft ubihard
DAIMONDGAMES_SK (1 month ago)
im using czc symbolicly... im from Slovakia we are actual brothers of Czech rep. so i must use single Czech gun in game :D
Pri vate (1 month ago)
Only reason I used the c 75 was the suppressor. Well I guess it's a super obvious choice, much like many operator loadouts. Ubi needs to focus on balance and gameplay over some kid saying "poop" in chat.
Roseking Gaming (1 month ago)
Nah give me that Bearing 9
Alexander harbaugh (1 month ago)
Bering 9 best
I don't know why I just like C75. I can't control the SMG 12 very well for some reason. Maybe I am used to its pattern idk
ID CTo (1 month ago)
M870 wins,thank you
The SMG-12's recoil gives me headshots if I just pan it across the screen in the general direction of an enemy.
Mad Man (2 months ago)
But Smg-11>Smg12 tho.
OptimisticBleach (2 months ago)
I think Imma run C75
Aleksi Saarinen (2 months ago)
Break law exclude bury complex vital typical moral competition.
Keegan S (2 months ago)
There is one observable advantage the C75 has over the other SMGs, however niche it is: if you ever end up hipfiring for whatever reason, the C75 outperforms all of the other machine pistols by a significant margin. Generally not a useful feature unless you're using it as a panic backup or something, but worth noting. You actually have a chance at hitting your target from the hip, unlike other machine pistols.
WaffleAday 449 (2 months ago)
“ smg12 the best suppressed sidearm in the game” what about cavs sidearm
Andrew Ashman (28 days ago)
WaffleAday 449 cavs does 23 damage at 8 meters
TallyhoJrIV (2 months ago)
1:39 Mobility is how strong your movement is, if you have a heavier gun you'll move a bit slower.
A big horse Cok (2 months ago)
5:20 what map is he on?
紅頭 (2 months ago)
Still bearing-9
StΔtιc O (2 months ago)
I hate the jittery recoil of the smg12, the auto in my experience is far more fun. You can unload a whole mag on people with relatively linear recoil, while I usually have to resort to burst firing with the smg12 all the time.
Faiz Mumtaz Ramadhan (2 months ago)
Of course CZ75 is the best for pistol round and rushing B site Wait a minute... sorry guys wrong game
KostasNotKolsas (2 months ago)
Fortnite 14 (2 months ago)
he sounds like pyrerealm gaming
Johannes Heitkemper (2 months ago)
Watum deutscher titel und beschreibung aber englisches video
Khameleon269 (2 months ago)
SMG-11 is a beast!!!
A Goat (2 months ago)
Very well made video 👍
陳奕翔 (2 months ago)
Damn The data analyses is crazy
Jäger Main (2 months ago)
Kontik 32 (3 months ago)
I prefer more cz-75, because spray of this gun is less then smg-12
Wub Master (3 months ago)
Smg 11
Friz Felix (3 months ago)
Wanna know how to use the SMG 12? Tap fire
Bandito Ate My Dorito (3 months ago)
2 OP smgs secondary’s coming right up
Monkey D. Luffy (3 months ago)
I was kinda lost but it wasn't your fault and what I got from this video is from best to worst it's Smg-12 Bearing-9 Smg-11 C75
TBNR_ MO (3 months ago)
If mobility is a thing shouldn't the mobility on blackbeards gun ehit shield should be less?
An Honest Bard (3 months ago)
I need your mic.... and your voice
Palieux (3 months ago)
Keratos is teh best now lol xd
Aku Chan (3 months ago)
Wish the c75's clip hand grip was functional in csgo it actually is used as tactical reload (an fuk that game)
ElderChargeDragon 1414 (3 months ago)
who else also only uses vigil for his guns not his ability, because not being scanned isnt useful if the drones screen frigging lights the hell up!
Gemuse Mann (3 months ago)
I still like c75 more
LOCKNLOAD6996 (3 months ago)
SMG 11 all the way
Loli Lover (3 months ago)
Hint Hint Nudge Nudge Ubi!😂
InfamousxDope (3 months ago)
Smg-11 Master Race
chase is hype (3 months ago)
Best side arm is jackals shotgun
Tatt 5063 (3 months ago)
Well I am good with c75
Corey (3 months ago)
Bearing 9 is the best
Latest Toxic (3 months ago)
I like most other side arms better than both of them except for the GIGN revolver
BGames Studio (3 months ago)
I'm pretty sure mobility effects like ads time and stuff like that
Rogue-9 (3 months ago)
In the past, several different Ubi community managers and devs have admitted that it was a broken, meaningless stat that was never implemented properly. Unless that has changed with the latest update, you may lose that bet ;-D
BGames Studio (3 months ago)
BGames Studio (3 months ago)
Rogue-9 I'm literally willing to put money that it is
Rogue-9 (3 months ago)
I know for a fact that it does not. Although I hear that there is an upcoming change with Para Bellum
Kevin Pereira (3 months ago)
smg 11 with extended barrel?
Olivia Lambert (3 months ago)
Working purely on sound decibels isn't a good way to compare. Certainly to my ear the CZ sounded quieter with the SMG-11 in a very close second whilst the Bearing-9 was very loud and almost as bad as the SMG-12. The decibel meter showed the SMG-11 and Bearing-9 as almost identical at, the CZ significantly higher and the SMG-12 significantly higher than that. Its hard to really measure sound heard for humans but if you have access to LKFS meters I would assume they would be a lot better (though I haven't tested them on game audio personally). That aside I've always loved the Bearing-9 in Siege, but its going to be hard to stick to it when the SMG-12 seems so much better. I might still do better with the Bearing-9 because I'm a dirty scrub with poor aim, but certainly for most people I would expect the SMG-12 would dominate. Hell, for pro players I'd be surprised if it would be outside of the top 5 for any defender guns, primary or secondary. Maybe it is with the sheer number of characters now, but its certainly still a total monster for the dinks.
Jordan LaQuey (3 months ago)
Why do you sound like a robot?
Zane Robbins (3 months ago)
The smg-12 is an absolute headshot machine. Obviously fire rate wins over damage in this game, but the recoil pattern on the smg-12 is perfect because when aiming at center of mass, the gun moves itself right up to the head. Very convenient for people like me who arent as used to always aiming for the head, but even then due to the recoil pattern you should default to aiming for center of mass. From personal experience the hipfiring with a laser is very nice and good for when that sweaty Jäger main runs from around a corner, and you dont have time to aim down sights.
BuckyBoi (3 months ago)
Wait, so what are the 4 weapons that cannot equip the laser sight
BuffLizardMan (3 months ago)
Jokes on everyone, 100% hipfire on the c75
Zulhardika Rendy Permana (4 months ago)
smg-12 ftw :v
TheShadowZ TSZ (4 months ago)
-.- u didn’t tried the c75 silent he is sooo op when u land the shots ^^
Parting waters (4 months ago)
I love c75 with suppressor, it's visual is great with no muzzle flash and it doesn't jump all over like the 12
I am BEEBO!!! (4 months ago)
Whu aboot Bearing-12
Croakinc36 (4 months ago)
Idk why, but I do way better with the c75. It works great for me.
Rj 2039 (4 months ago)
can we get a revisit with the smg-12 change
Schizomania :3 (4 months ago)
Great that i found This video i was just About to buy dokaebi,but I didn’t know which sidearm to choose now I do I’ll just the c-75 for shits and giggles but the smg-12 in ranked so thank you rogue for making this
SexedByLasers YT (4 months ago)
Nooooo but I luv the CZ 😭😭😭😭😭
Rybec From Canada (4 months ago)
Regardless of the outcome I need to use the CZ75 because she's my girl as far as sidearms go.
Bálint Urbán (4 months ago)
Hi Rouge-9 ! The smg 12 have much bigger horizontal recoil than smg11 and you cant use it to snipe . but r9 can you make smg 11, smg12 and bearing 9 recoil comperation after the new recoil system go to the real game?
darkhorse0404 (4 months ago)
The shotgun
Eddie Bradley (4 months ago)
Rather have a bowl of bearing 9
Bigt 99 (4 months ago)
After nerf?
Lyron Crawford (4 months ago)
Not suppressed anymore😥😥😥
Midget Man (4 months ago)
I like dee C75
Hendew_12 (4 months ago)
Ur a bad YouTuber on the suppressed sound you used ash’s r4c instead of the bearing nine
Karen D. (4 months ago)
RIP SMG-12 integrated suppressor Taken before its time
XboxGrinder (5 months ago)
0:55 200 health?
Josh Wright (5 months ago)
Smg 12
Peari (5 months ago)
SMG 12
gustavo aldaco (5 months ago)
If the c75 had a scope option and a bit lower recoil it would be heaven
No Name (5 months ago)
Smokes and sledges is tha best
Shadow (5 months ago)
I don't even know what he just explained???
EARTH • (5 months ago)
C75 is the best in my opinion
Gilles Touré (5 months ago)
I prefer the CZ-75 cuz the recoil is pistol recoil but it is automatic.
MLZonix YT (5 months ago)
Smg 11
Ballistic Bucket (5 months ago)
Best secondary is jackles shotgun because I can be a baby buck but I’m still timers worst enemy
Gol D. Roger (5 months ago)
Of course suppress stats aren’t accurate real suppressors increase damage
Sh0VaH (5 months ago)
it's pretty retarded that there is a magasin that you hold on to but don't use it XD
Ascend Rebel (5 months ago)
i prefer the bearing 9because it a bit slower therfor, less muzzle climb per second. and it 3 shots in cqc if the enemy is at or less than 99 health
cryer3160 (5 months ago)
shouldn't there be an update because SMG12 has an additional recoil after the first few shots like ela's scorpion?
Give me back My ACOG (5 months ago)
The thing we have to discuss is the operator that is using it about there primary and there ability, say tachanka has one of the machine pistols but he isn’t a very good operator in some eyes I mean but who fucking cares ALL HAIL GLORY GREATEST LORD CHANKA
Purple_Porsche49 (5 months ago)
Yet we still have no glock 18
Ethan Goodridge (5 months ago)
Now the SMG-12 is borderline useless. So sad.
StupefyingSavage336 (5 months ago)
The Mac 11 is way better than both
The Legend 27 (5 months ago)
Your like the pyrealm gaming for rainbow six.

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