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C75 vs. SMG-12: who wins? - Rainbow Six | Siege

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In this video, I test the C75 Auto and the SMG-12 (as well as the SMG-11 & BEARING-9) in Rainbow Six Siege, in terms of damage drop-off, recoil, suppressor advantages / disadvantages, reload speed and more, to find out how they compare to each other. So, what are their strengths and weaknesses and which one is the best? Let's find out! Online stat spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QF72f4Bm7PfbWeSWbl8R8uL0mOzXpG_1vOjqEjXcFGk/edit#gid=0 Join me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/RogueN9 Discord! https://discord.gg/GFbWWhC Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/Rogue.9er More Rogue-9! R6 Gun Guides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7b_pqdIu5g&list=PLP2MwDk1r3q1A8z3g9f0OFj2O2sMLMVOa Battlefield 1: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP2MwDk1r3q3F7Oj-hF0EFFma-l2hy5UD Music: "Call To Adventure" - by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) "Rags 2 Riches Rag" - by Audionautix ( http://audionautix.com) "Happy Strummin" - by Audionautix ( http://audionautix.com) "If I Had a Chicken" - by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) "Monkeys Spinning Monkeys" - by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) "Maverick Hunter" - by MDK (https://mdkofficial.bandcamp.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
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Rogue-9 (7 months ago)
General Stats: 0:36 Damage Stats: 2:22 Attachments & Recoil: 5:14 Suppression Comparison: 7:24 Final Conclusion: 8:37
Lenny Face (3 days ago)
Rogue-9 hi I love the videos however would it be possible in the future to label the graph axis. I know it's a little nitpicky but it might help a little.
mastroliogames (14 days ago)
Rogue-9 I
Infinite Stratos (20 days ago)
That's weird. When I use the CZ I suppress it and I get a lazer beam with literally no recoil.
Zachary (27 days ago)
Rogue-9 x
DeadReaper (1 month ago)
Rogue-9 is
OptimisticBleach (5 days ago)
I think Imma run C75
Aleksi Saarinen (5 days ago)
Break law exclude bury complex vital typical moral competition.
Keegan S (7 days ago)
There is one observable advantage the C75 has over the other SMGs, however niche it is: if you ever end up hipfiring for whatever reason, the C75 outperforms all of the other machine pistols by a significant margin. Generally not a useful feature unless you're using it as a panic backup or something, but worth noting. You actually have a chance at hitting your target from the hip, unlike other machine pistols.
WaffleAday 449 (8 days ago)
“ smg12 the best suppressed sidearm in the game” what about cavs sidearm
TallyhoJrIV (13 days ago)
1:39 Mobility is how strong your movement is, if you have a heavier gun you'll move a bit slower.
A big horse Cok (13 days ago)
5:20 what map is he on?
弧光 (14 days ago)
SMG11最強
Still bearing-9
StΔtιc O (17 days ago)
I hate the jittery recoil of the smg12, the auto in my experience is far more fun. You can unload a whole mag on people with relatively linear recoil, while I usually have to resort to burst firing with the smg12 all the time.
Faiz Mumtaz Ramadhan (18 days ago)
Of course CZ75 is the best for pistol round and rushing B site Wait a minute... sorry guys wrong game
KostasNotKolsas (20 days ago)
czgo
Fortnite 14 (20 days ago)
he sounds like pyrerealm gaming
Johannes Heitkemper (21 days ago)
Watum deutscher titel und beschreibung aber englisches video
Khameleon269 (21 days ago)
SMG-11 is a beast!!!
A Goat (21 days ago)
Very well made video 👍
陳奕翔 (22 days ago)
Damn The data analyses is crazy
S1mpleChann3l *-* (24 days ago)
Smg..
Kontik 32 (28 days ago)
I prefer more cz-75, because spray of this gun is less then smg-12
Wub Master (1 month ago)
Smg 11
Friz Felix (1 month ago)
Wanna know how to use the SMG 12? Tap fire
Elite Alibi (1 month ago)
2 OP smgs secondary’s coming right up
Monkey D. Luffy (1 month ago)
I was kinda lost but it wasn't your fault and what I got from this video is from best to worst it's Smg-12 Bearing-9 Smg-11 C75
TBNR_ MO (1 month ago)
If mobility is a thing shouldn't the mobility on blackbeards gun ehit shield should be less?
An Honest Bard (1 month ago)
I need your mic.... and your voice
Palieux (1 month ago)
Keratos is teh best now lol xd
Aku Chan (1 month ago)
Wish the c75's clip hand grip was functional in csgo it actually is used as tactical reload (an fuk that game)
ElderChargeDragon 1414 (1 month ago)
who else also only uses vigil for his guns not his ability, because not being scanned isnt useful if the drones screen frigging lights the hell up!
Paper420j ' (1 month ago)
I still like c75 more
LOCKNLOAD6996 (1 month ago)
SMG 11 all the way
Loli Lover (1 month ago)
Hint Hint Nudge Nudge Ubi!😂
InfamousxDope (1 month ago)
Smg-11 Master Race
chase is hype (1 month ago)
Best side arm is jackals shotgun
Tatt 5063 (1 month ago)
Well I am good with c75
Corey (1 month ago)
Bearing 9 is the best
Latest Toxic (1 month ago)
I like most other side arms better than both of them except for the GIGN revolver
BGames Studio (1 month ago)
I'm pretty sure mobility effects like ads time and stuff like that
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
In the past, several different Ubi community managers and devs have admitted that it was a broken, meaningless stat that was never implemented properly. Unless that has changed with the latest update, you may lose that bet ;-D
BGames Studio (1 month ago)
:p
BGames Studio (1 month ago)
Rogue-9 I'm literally willing to put money that it is
Rogue-9 (1 month ago)
I know for a fact that it does not. Although I hear that there is an upcoming change with Para Bellum
Kevin Pereira (1 month ago)
smg 11 with extended barrel?
Olivia Lambert (1 month ago)
Working purely on sound decibels isn't a good way to compare. Certainly to my ear the CZ sounded quieter with the SMG-11 in a very close second whilst the Bearing-9 was very loud and almost as bad as the SMG-12. The decibel meter showed the SMG-11 and Bearing-9 as almost identical at, the CZ significantly higher and the SMG-12 significantly higher than that. Its hard to really measure sound heard for humans but if you have access to LKFS meters I would assume they would be a lot better (though I haven't tested them on game audio personally). That aside I've always loved the Bearing-9 in Siege, but its going to be hard to stick to it when the SMG-12 seems so much better. I might still do better with the Bearing-9 because I'm a dirty scrub with poor aim, but certainly for most people I would expect the SMG-12 would dominate. Hell, for pro players I'd be surprised if it would be outside of the top 5 for any defender guns, primary or secondary. Maybe it is with the sheer number of characters now, but its certainly still a total monster for the dinks.
Jordan LaQuey (1 month ago)
Why do you sound like a robot?
Zane Robbins (1 month ago)
The smg-12 is an absolute headshot machine. Obviously fire rate wins over damage in this game, but the recoil pattern on the smg-12 is perfect because when aiming at center of mass, the gun moves itself right up to the head. Very convenient for people like me who arent as used to always aiming for the head, but even then due to the recoil pattern you should default to aiming for center of mass. From personal experience the hipfiring with a laser is very nice and good for when that sweaty Jäger main runs from around a corner, and you dont have time to aim down sights.
BuckyBoi (1 month ago)
Wait, so what are the 4 weapons that cannot equip the laser sight
Sean Murray The God (1 month ago)
Jokes on everyone, 100% hipfire on the c75
Zulhardika Rendy Permana (2 months ago)
smg-12 ftw :v
TheShadowZ TSZ (2 months ago)
-.- u didn’t tried the c75 silent he is sooo op when u land the shots ^^
Parting waters (2 months ago)
I love c75 with suppressor, it's visual is great with no muzzle flash and it doesn't jump all over like the 12
I am BEEBO!!! (2 months ago)
Whu aboot Bearing-12
Croakinc36 (2 months ago)
Idk why, but I do way better with the c75. It works great for me.
Rj 2039 (2 months ago)
can we get a revisit with the smg-12 change
Schizomania :3 (2 months ago)
Great that i found This video i was just About to buy dokaebi,but I didn’t know which sidearm to choose now I do I’ll just the c-75 for shits and giggles but the smg-12 in ranked so thank you rogue for making this
SexedByLasers YT (2 months ago)
Nooooo but I luv the CZ 😭😭😭😭😭
Rybec From Canada (2 months ago)
Regardless of the outcome I need to use the CZ75 because she's my girl as far as sidearms go.
Bálint Urbán (2 months ago)
Hi Rouge-9 ! The smg 12 have much bigger horizontal recoil than smg11 and you cant use it to snipe . but r9 can you make smg 11, smg12 and bearing 9 recoil comperation after the new recoil system go to the real game?
darkhorse0404 (2 months ago)
The shotgun
Eddie Bradley (2 months ago)
Rather have a bowl of bearing 9
Bigt 99 (2 months ago)
After nerf?
Lyron Crawford (2 months ago)
Not suppressed anymore😥😥😥
Midget Man (2 months ago)
I like dee C75
Hendew_12 (2 months ago)
Ur a bad YouTuber on the suppressed sound you used ash’s r4c instead of the bearing nine
Karen D. (2 months ago)
RIP SMG-12 integrated suppressor Taken before its time
XboxGrinder (2 months ago)
0:55 200 health?
Josh Wright (3 months ago)
Smg 12
Peari (3 months ago)
SMG 12
gustavo aldaco (3 months ago)
If the c75 had a scope option and a bit lower recoil it would be heaven
No Name (3 months ago)
Smokes and sledges is tha best
Chicken Curry (3 months ago)
I don't even know what he just explained???
EARTH • (3 months ago)
C75 is the best in my opinion
Gilles Touré (3 months ago)
I prefer the CZ-75 cuz the recoil is pistol recoil but it is automatic.
MLZonix YT (3 months ago)
Smg 11
Brainfreez Star (3 months ago)
Best secondary is jackles shotgun because I can be a baby buck but I’m still timers worst enemy
Ihatemylife696 (3 months ago)
Of course suppress stats aren’t accurate real suppressors increase damage
ZEX1TY (3 months ago)
it's pretty retarded that there is a magasin that you hold on to but don't use it XD
Ascend Rebel (3 months ago)
i prefer the bearing 9because it a bit slower therfor, less muzzle climb per second. and it 3 shots in cqc if the enemy is at or less than 99 health
cryer3160 (3 months ago)
shouldn't there be an update because SMG12 has an additional recoil after the first few shots like ela's scorpion?
Clorox Bleach me baby (3 months ago)
The thing we have to discuss is the operator that is using it about there primary and there ability, say tachanka has one of the machine pistols but he isn’t a very good operator in some eyes I mean but who fucking cares ALL HAIL GLORY GREATEST LORD CHANKA
Purple_Porsche49 (3 months ago)
Yet we still have no glock 18
Ethan Goodridge (3 months ago)
Now the SMG-12 is borderline useless. So sad.
StupefyingSavage336 (3 months ago)
The Mac 11 is way better than both
The Legend 27 (3 months ago)
Your like the pyrealm gaming for rainbow six.
Earlyn Johnson (3 months ago)
The recoil on the smg-12 is wild, though spraying and praying will usually get you the weird headshot
Michael Reiley (3 months ago)
Best secondary idea: chicken blaster
Mr. Trollz (3 months ago)
C75 best. Better recoil control.
thescorpiondroid_ 3000 (3 months ago)
The cz75 has lower fire rate and it makes you eat your sights and those are the only downsides
Revolverous Ocelot (3 months ago)
if you compare CZ75 with any smg secondary in the game i love your content but are you dumb? they got a sight rail but u cant put an "Ela pistol sight'' on it, because logic and the ironsights are so fat, its mostly RNG if u actualy hit ur enemy
Adrian Chang (3 months ago)
Plot twist: these are becoming primary’s
Skywalker (3 months ago)
Yes when suppressed the smg 11 is not as good as the smg 12 but you really never want to run a suppressor on a smg 11 since when unsuppressed its the best secondary in the game and I’d personally trade silence for less recoil any day
Ded Pewl (3 months ago)
I mean, the C75 is cool and all, but I don’t want my teeth to be punched out by it
xXMoneyGamerXx r6siege (3 months ago)
im using smg-12
Ultrocity CG (3 months ago)
Jackal and Mira’s shotgun utility
Jojofunsize Ramirez (4 months ago)
On ps4 you only get 100
Jojofunsize Ramirez (4 months ago)
Why do you have 200 life
Dantes Inferno (4 months ago)
I like both personally But tbh I prefer the CZ75 It feels better for me tho I mean I find it more satisfying to you and I’ve gotten more used to it Less fire rate but it hits harder and that’s why I like it.
oimeoi medmoi (4 months ago)
Does anybody know what ctu means?
Rogue-9 (4 months ago)
Counter terrorism unit
Awsome chanel (4 months ago)
SMG 11
SmoothTurtle (4 months ago)
SMG-11 Smoke is meta
DrumCoversFromHell (4 months ago)
Handguns are recommended to be used up close. The drop off is harsher because most pistol ammo type doesn't break the speed of sound, so in speed they are stronger up close, even though the smgs use 9mm, the game uses the logic that pistols are more powerful even though they use the same round, so, use the c75. If you are in close quarters
Smoke (4 months ago)
Smg-11 wins
Unknown (4 months ago)
Can cause... CS:GoO LETS GO DUDS
Fish Duck (4 months ago)
the c75 doesn't have a grip its just a spare mag.
DerSpanier5001 (4 months ago)
This is the first Video I watched from your Channel and I am pretty impressed by the amount of detail you bring into this..Could it be that you are the 3kliksphilip of Rainbow Six Siege?! (Also Sub for the great Content)

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