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The SMG-12 is getting a Nerf! ... or is it a Buff?! You decide! - Rainbow Six Siege

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Get free gift cards, R6 credits, DLC or cash here! $5 bonus: http://9nl.es/Rogue9 Thanks Swagbucks for sponsoring! As we near the official release of Operation Chimera for Rainbow Six Siege, I explore some of the changes that have been made to the Korean sidearm, MP-12. The TTS patch notes made no mention of these changes and since the gun is getting better in some ways and worse in others, it is hard to decide whethter this is a buff or a nerf. Leave you thoughts on theses changes in the comments section below: good, bad nor not all that important? Details on all guns here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QF72f4Bm7PfbWeSWbl8R8uL0mOzXpG_1vOjqEjXcFGk/edit?usp=sharing Join me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/RogueN9 Discord! https://discord.gg/rogue-9 Facebook! https://www.facebook.com/Rogue.9er More Rogue-9! R6 Gun Guides: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7b_pqdIu5g&list=PLP2MwDk1r3q1A8z3g9f0OFj2O2sMLMVOa Battlefield 1: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLP2MwDk1r3q3F7Oj-hF0EFFma-l2hy5UD Music: "Breaktime Silent Film Light" - by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) "Call to Adventure" - by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) "Monkeys spinning monkeys" - by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
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Text Comments (770)
Crazy Tiger Spy (1 day ago)
The SMG NEEDS A NERF NO RECOIL AT ALL
Daidōji (10 days ago)
I'm glad they reverted this
DiVine_ Skeptic (21 days ago)
Smg 12 machine broke DEADASS ITS BROKEN
cooljdog123 (21 days ago)
How many times did he say mp
Player_ Crew (1 month ago)
In Para Bellum its silenced again lol
logan ulrich (1 month ago)
The smg 12 is now silenced again
Adan God (1 month ago)
It suppressed again
MSO Shawn (1 month ago)
Exactly is ela gun sound wtf ubi
KazokuFPS (1 month ago)
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Chris Pie All (2 months ago)
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Tachanka r6 (2 months ago)
But wait there's headshots
Roman Jones (2 months ago)
I was gonna say smg 12
Roman Jones (2 months ago)
Now I know mp12 is another name
Dokkaebi (2 months ago)
Dough-ke-bee
Noside Noside (2 months ago)
yeah! sponsors cant be blocked
Ali cass (2 months ago)
Mp-12???
Braincube 013 (2 months ago)
Since babies got it so heavily nerfed then we better get barrel attachments. And yeah it’s a nerf the suppression of the smg-12 is the best part of it...
Hayd P. (2 months ago)
I blame this change on the over pick rate of vigil. I wish the bearing 9 and the smg 11 were adjusted with similar minor changes
Crime Wave (2 months ago)
I knew there was something different about Vigil's smg. The reason I got him was because I loved the way his smg sounded when suppressed but sadly I got him after his Nerf/Buff.
Crime Wave (2 months ago)
Rogue-9 yessss, thanks for the update! Love your vids btw!!
Rogue-9 (2 months ago)
Well, good news! On the TS right now, the SMG-12 appears suppressed again. Maybe this change will be implemented in future
AbrahamRages (2 months ago)
did the smg-12 get silenced again?
IvanGames101 (3 months ago)
My favorite defender gun KIA
IvanGames101 (3 months ago)
Vigils guns are sure no joke. His recoil for his main is OP. I'm vigil main. I think second best gun behind Jägers
Malcolm Fitzgerald (3 months ago)
You confused the shit out of me calling it the SMG 12.
So_Jugg (3 months ago)
Nerf
Yoshi278 (3 months ago)
I just don't get why they add a gun with an integral suppressor then make in not suppressed lol
Martin Heine (3 months ago)
the smg12 is a better scorpion evo
Mr AppleGoth (3 months ago)
SUPPRESSOR DAMMIT
Lief Ericson (3 months ago)
I'll save y'all 7 minutes: no more suppressor, nothing else seems to be changed.
Royal Havoc325 (3 months ago)
Smg 12
Ryan Elgie (3 months ago)
Ok I wasn't going crazy it was silenced
Dylan Chisum (3 months ago)
it's not even suppressed tho
EDIRYOJ Gaming (3 months ago)
its the smg-12 not mp12
Koji Gallishaw (3 months ago)
GAYYYY easily one of my fav guns in the game :(
Finka Nut (3 months ago)
Burf
YA boi JOSH (3 months ago)
Hey Rogue I know it’s would be a lot of work but could you maybe do another one of the muzzle attachments videos after the update to see which one is the best since a lot of people think the old video might be outdated since a lot has changed in the game since then
Adolf Hitler (3 months ago)
Nerf
basooka007 (3 months ago)
Cz vs smg12 which 2 pick?
FuzzyThoughts (4 months ago)
I want to be allowed to put the suppressor back on, just for the sound
Fire Destroyer (4 months ago)
On Xbox the smg12 has a bit less recoil now too
Hollow (4 months ago)
Why did vigil and dokkabi (arguably the weakest pair of dlc operators) need this?
GetGood2001 (4 months ago)
Nerf
Simon Axelsson (4 months ago)
Mp12?
AJ (4 months ago)
He says “MP12” because he’s German, and in German it’s said “maschinen pistole”, -“machine pistol.”
Musty Aladdin (4 months ago)
Definitly a nerf in my eyes
Lolicon Loyalty (4 months ago)
Yes that is definitely a nerf
Adrian Curiale (4 months ago)
Burf
Conorseanery , (4 months ago)
Nerf Or pretty much everything else
Tufcat (4 months ago)
#Justicefordokidoki
Jacobear (4 months ago)
I knew something sounded off with it
JISOO IS SAVAGE (4 months ago)
So sad :( poor vigil
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Filippo Belfortini (4 months ago)
I actually noticed a huge change in the random components of the recoil. The weapon is much more reliable and controllable now. I think they buffed it with the patch.
elliottmotox88 (4 months ago)
dont nerf it pls
Cyrus (4 months ago)
So... a "rework" is the word you're looking for.
dogboy0912 (4 months ago)
Hi Rogue. I am a little confused in your R6 doc. The R4 has a higher damage at max drop-of compared to the G-36, but its shots to kill and TTK are listed as higher than the G-36 at max range.
Tony Soprano (4 months ago)
Why the fuck did they feel the need to nerf the smg 12
Oo F (4 months ago)
Nerf
WhenYouWalking (4 months ago)
They nerfed bosg too because it used to act like glaz on pres plane and penetrate windows but now it doesn’t
Joesph _GG_ (4 months ago)
I just read the description and you said MP-12 instead of SMG-12
Nick307GT (4 months ago)
Mp 12 lmao
Dillan Silveira (4 months ago)
Why does he sound like a robot
It sounds meaner
Dani Szél (4 months ago)
If Ubisoft... there is a nerf
Dox (4 months ago)
when i search mp-12 i get cavs smg, was this a mistake or something?
OhcomeOnYou (4 months ago)
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Otto Vuori (4 months ago)
So they are buffin smg12? I already love it and it sounds so good.
HA Y N RUDEBOY (4 months ago)
Hi
CrapAtSiege (4 months ago)
I think its a nerf the silenced barrel was an amazing difference compared to other machine pistols
Purple_Porsche49 (4 months ago)
Its recoil got reduced thats what i found when i tested it
Let's be honest, if people were allowed to put muzzle attachments on the smg 12 then they would just put a suppressor
Cptn (4 months ago)
It’s a nerf but it’s not terrible
MP-12 XD
UnveilingYeti 27 (4 months ago)
By the way Rouge you could play around with guns in the game before year 3. At least on console
Solitary (4 months ago)
Nerf
Im A Pie (4 months ago)
For all of those who wish to correct him on saying that it is the SMG 12 and not the MP 12 both names are correct.
G (4 months ago)
both buff and nerf
Niklas B. (4 months ago)
I don't care about the smg-12. I use the c75 all the time :-D
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LoganMCB (4 months ago)
Why tf are you calling it an mp-12?
daryel hernandez (4 months ago)
How would you feel if they gave Mira acog and angled grip like Leon has also what if the bosg could have acog
Dhika LOL (4 months ago)
umm.. it sounds like ela's smg did anyone notice?
Aaron Pollard (4 months ago)
You don't speak like this in your livestreams.
_HaleX_ (4 months ago)
It got a Burf
Jäger (4 months ago)
Why is OUTBREAK limited time? these developers make no sense they just nerfed there whole game
vl DJ lv (4 months ago)
Anyone else noticed how the old SMG-12 sounds like the RK5 from bo3?
Emoy _ (4 months ago)
Smg 12 is buffed all kills I’ve gotten with it have been headshots when I’m aiming at the enemy’s feet
II SHILOH II (4 months ago)
The real weapons care called the mp12 or it might be a mac 12
Oeg Rivalry (4 months ago)
nerf :(
Atomic Void (4 months ago)
Definite nerf
IEarnXp (4 months ago)
Eh swagbucks don’t work for me
Rogue-9 (4 months ago)
I've had a few comments like that before. it may be down to regional restrictions
Wyatt Puhalla (4 months ago)
Is this swagbucks website a scam?
jones 298 (4 months ago)
Is swagbucks worth getting guys?
Pro_Robot (4 months ago)
*M P 1 2*
DCG Exotic (4 months ago)
the fact he said mp the entire video has shook me
Rogue-9 (4 months ago)
I don't know what happened.... complete brain malfunction
vectron 07 (4 months ago)
MP-12 really?
Rogue-9 (4 months ago)
apparently... don't ask me
Garrett Ashley (4 months ago)
Time to do an updated comparison between the two 707 sidearms.
Stefan C (4 months ago)
Thanks for your thoroughness. Great video as always.
jhunscrown (4 months ago)
Clearly they thought my Vigil game was too strong.
Carlos Huiskens (4 months ago)
Personally I've never felt like the SMG-12 was a suppressed gun. Even before this upcoming update the gun sounded to load compared to other weapons using a suppressor.
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