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Is Super Smash Bros Ultimate a Port or a New Game?

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Freezeflame 123 (4 days ago)
Saying Smash Ultimate is a port of Smash 4 is like saying Mega Man 3 is a port of Mega Man 2: *The core gameplay hasn't changed at all. *It has the same graphics. *It only introduces one new mechanic which is the slide mechanic. *It reuses the first 8 bosses from Mega Man 2 in 4 stages which are slightly tweaked versions of 4 earlier stages in the game. The game also uses a slightly tweaked version of a boss from the first Mega Man game, similar to how Ultimate has slightly tweaked stuff from all previous Smash games. *The structure of the game is completely similar to it's predecessor: you start with 8 stages that can be completed in any order, each stage has a boss that gives a weapon that is the weakness of another boss. After completing all 8 stages you gain access to the final stage which is divided into 6 parts, one of then is a rematch against all 8 bosses, and you fight a final boss controlled by the same villain in the last stage. *The story is nearly identical. Mega Man 3 is Mega Man 2.5 confirmed. The same can be said about other games: Majora's Mask is Ocarina of Time 1.5 confirmed. Super Mario Galaxy 2 is Super Mario Galaxy 1.5 confirmed.
E X P A N D (15 days ago)
Either way if it is, would it really change the enjoyment for the game? People are complaining about this but in the end, does it really doesn,t matter?
signerleo snyder (17 days ago)
it is for gorun skau it form gorund up
Adam Thompson (22 days ago)
Not even close to a port buttt okayyyy. Edit: It's been in progress for like 5 years already. So uh. Take that how you will.
BitchChill (27 days ago)
It's new
Blaque Link (27 days ago)
So it took 4 years to make a deluxe port? Okay. Eh. Makes sense. Sakurai had to go through a hell of a lot of hoops bro get all the characters in the game especially the 3rd party characters.
Buck (30 days ago)
it's not the same engine tho.
LaughingElfMan (1 month ago)
Its kinda sad that this is a legitimate question.
Enderbroseff (1 month ago)
It's been stated that this game IS from the ground up though. If you call this a port of smash 4, then by the same criteria games like Majora's Mask are more of a port than it. Majora's Mask reused ocarina assets and the same engine! Smash ultimate is built from the ground up, so that makes Majora's Mask a port as well right?
Juxtaphor (1 month ago)
"So Mr. Sakurai, what characters will be playable in Smash Ultimate?" Sakurai: "Yes."
WonderBeaver007 (1 month ago)
Smash 4.5
Dr.Souta (1 month ago)
It ain't a real Smash without Waluigi
Killerbee McTitties (1 month ago)
Melee is the ultimate smash bros game. what good does having all the characters when the only viable one is bayonetta?
Nex Arkwahs (1 month ago)
You can't bring up the "it's built on the same engine" to make it not seem like a new game. many sequels use the same engine and reuse some assets. especially fighting games. you cant change too many moves in a fighting game because it will make older fans mad but if you dont change moves people will think that this is not a new game. With all the content and the different techniques that were implemented and the way knock back has been handled he game is certainly different. With all the changes that were made how can people say it's a port or an enhanced port when some of the fundamental aspects of the game have been changed and upgraded.
Rose Monarch (1 month ago)
It's obviously not completely new. Looks more like the updates fighting games tend to get, same game with new characters and mechanics.
Lol Dude (1 month ago)
It’s a port
Ultimate OLM (1 month ago)
People who say it’s a port are the flat earthers of the community
Carlo Nassar (1 month ago)
The Wii U game was on a bad selling console so it wouldn't even 70% matter.
LemonyNebula (1 month ago)
If new mechanics and new characters isn't enough to be a new game, then its been a port since the original back in 1999
Ewolf5150 (1 month ago)
I’m not really super excited about ultimate. I will definitely buy it day one, but it doesn’t look like anything we haven’t seen before. I can’t really complain because the smash formula has been pretty much perfected.
Tide Vara (1 month ago)
so it kind like splatoon 2 a loot of reuse stuff but add some new stuff as well
NewbieObi (1 month ago)
It is a sequel a sequel should feel a little like its first game. Or are you saying games like the battlefields, call of duties, Mortal Kombat, or injustice games play really different in their sequels?
Tarvos Trigaranos (1 month ago)
I have to disagree with you Yong, it's definitely a new new game, and not an in-between. Take for example Assasin's Creed Origins and Odyssey, the latter being only one year later and fully considered a new new game.
max speaking (1 month ago)
THIS GAME IS A PORT!!!! Pretty disappointed in this review!!!!! Yong has been very quick to destroy games that port upscaled maps, like BF2, or games that are very similar to their predecessors, like Destiny 2; but he was clearly lacking his bravado here. I agreed with those criticisms. As a smash fan, I'm very disappointed in this game because of the lack of new content, slight tweaks, and the shitty 1080p graphics. I mean ... This is like a smash wii u in which the devs released some updates, like bug fixes and gameplay changes, and threw in some dlc content.
Dark Sonic2020 (1 month ago)
It's obviously a new game
Simenshow (1 month ago)
I guess majora's mask is not a new game 🤷🏿‍♀️
Leather wolf (1 month ago)
I’m just happy we’re going to have another super smash brothers game. Even if it’s not the last, I’m happy the series will continue to get people to bond with each other and leave a legendary game series in this world with so many people who love this series.
El Chaos (1 month ago)
So basically Super Smash Bros. 4 Deluxe.
seigemotube (1 month ago)
New game obviously.... but is like a mix of all smash, smash 4.5 and more ???
Jason9811 (1 month ago)
It's actually not the same engine, it's Unreal 4. The last Smash Bros was using the Havok.
Deathbrewer (1 month ago)
It's a new game. It's the next Smash game. It's not like "Smash for the Wii U on the Switch." It's a new one. It's basically Smash 5, just named "Ultimate" instead of doing a number in the title this time again. It has literally every playable character from the past, plus new characters, new moves, new mechanics, new art style, tweaks for every single character, new stages, tweaks to old stages, etc. Think about what you got from N64 Smash to Melee. It looked like basically that type of jump to me. I did NOT get the impression you got at all, Yong.
Some dude on earth (1 month ago)
So this is like a remake of smash 4, right? Just like how Pokémon Omega Ruby is a remake of Pokémon Ruby. So it is new, it's just not smash 5.
Carlo Davies (1 month ago)
I mean what the fuck do you think?
BaronBrownB (1 month ago)
Calling SSBU a port is like calling Reggie a man!
HMM (1 month ago)
Sm4sh to Ultimate is like Ocarina of Time to Majora's Mask.
Ludovic Beck (1 month ago)
It’s a “new” game, it’s just not a “new - new” game... Well, I’m sure that no one is one bit confused about any of that since Nintendo always, has been notoriously known for only selling brand new and original games. Never once, a same exact instance of a game (with slightly improved graphics and two new characters in the roster) has ever been again, and again, and again, sold at Nintendo. Let me put it this way, “this game costs a BRAND NEW $60”.
BaronBrownB (1 month ago)
the only new thing about this game is a paid online.
Hanzo Hattori (1 month ago)
Every smash game felt like the smash game before it, kinda like COD or Assassin's Creed games though the philosophy of smash games is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". Ultimate, however, is built from the ground up with new engine, redesigned models, stages, and new animations, physics and movesets. Heck, only thing reused are a few models and animations like how it is in a new street fighter or tekken game. You are wrong on another big thing. The game feels and plays a lot like melee more than smash4. In fact, it plays nothing like smash4. This would have been impossible to achieve had they ported it or relied heavily on smash4
Galactic Dunny (1 month ago)
It's not a port fucktards
Cybergenic (1 month ago)
So.. an enhanced port.. so, a port
Swiss Montana (1 month ago)
Why do people care if it’s a port or not ? It’s Smash on the go with awesome graphics, the once who things it’s a port, you guys won’t be buying just because you feel that it’s a port?? I don’t get why you guys ain’t hype for this
Zachary Kemp (1 month ago)
this game was actually built from the ground up. it's been confirmed!
SteveDoidoUltimate (8 days ago)
Zachary Kemp No, it is being built on top if Smash 4.
Nichols Family (1 month ago)
to follow that logic super smash bros melee was a port because i used the same engine and just added stuff and enhanced character models its the same thing as super smash bros ultimate
Jaron The Jedi (1 month ago)
It may not have all the modes or stages. It's not a port just because every fighter is in it.
chiffmonkey (1 month ago)
Best Of Compilation Album.
sizzstar (1 month ago)
I like how people who haven’t played it yet are in the comment section denying your opinion lol
GonnaGalvanizeU (1 month ago)
To me it's like the Dreamcast's Mortal Kombat Gold to the PS and 64's Mortal Kombat 4.
Jermaine Rodney Jr. (1 month ago)
If you never actually developed a game I understand why you wouldn't understand a game engine is more than just the coding program you use to create a game. It also refers to the base game mechanics you can develop a game in unity and transfer it over basically copy and paste it in unreal engine. Which would make it the same "engine". Do your research.
Mark Topman (1 month ago)
Calling this a port is disrespecting the amount of work Sakurai has done to make this game
Sleepy Geno (1 month ago)
Its Smash 4.4
Galactic Dunny (1 month ago)
+Geno Jazz Fucking dumbass, Nintendo have stated that's it runs on a new engine so calm your tits
Sleepy Geno (1 month ago)
Galactic Dunny It runs on the same engine. Its not brand new.
Sleepy Geno (1 month ago)
Galactic Dunny No its not shut the fuck up.
Galactic Dunny (1 month ago)
No, it's Smash 5
T-Rex Turtle (1 month ago)
Anyone remember Mortal Kombat Trilogy? This is pretty much Nintendo's equivalent.
Reba Hashiri (1 month ago)
A enhanced port. that's what it is, and I'm HYPED!!!!
Raul Rojas (1 month ago)
oe oe fallout 76 is not a port is a new game, is not similar at all...has potential to be better or worse than fo 4 depends on the whole MP aspect and if it has Microstransactions or not...but we cant assume jack shit with Trailers in E3, the games never look that good.
They said it was built from the ground up. The engine atleast
Mon Dd (1 month ago)
Looks to be 80% Smash 4 20% new content\tweaks. Hopefully there are more changes to justify moving away from Smash 4.
wilder9777 (1 month ago)
more ports $w!tch_off
Galactic Dunny (1 month ago)
Well it's not a port
mrgrimrjs (1 month ago)
The credits in the trailer show it as being developed on unreal engine 4. Also, a statement was just released saying it is built from the ground up and not a port.
Martin Gustavsson (1 month ago)
Super Smash Bros: New Vegas
Guy Lloyd (1 month ago)
What a stupid video title.
MusaAzimee (1 month ago)
Never understood whats so special about these smash games..
Manuel Osorio (1 month ago)
I don't know if they have a name for this, but this concept already exists in fighting games. Example: Street Fighter III with the base game, 2nd Impact, and 3rd strike. Each version introduced new characters, stages, music, and slight balance tweaks to existing characters, but it was still considered SFIII. Ultimate is doing this right now with the Smash 4 engine. They just aren't billing it as such.
Zzarcon1 (1 month ago)
Looks like they are listening for the most part.
Sword N Bored (1 month ago)
Ganondorf wasn't mentioned as an echo fighter. That gives me hope that he has a much different move-set than just the new sword we saw.
Great SaiyanLord (1 month ago)
My take on this dumb question everybody seems to always bring up: who cares.... Be happy that its got new content and not just a complete port of Smash 4 with no added content. Sakurai went ham with the content of this game, let us appreciate what he's accomplished.
Katie Baily (1 month ago)
Mostly I’m interested in the modes they have. It would nice to bring back some sort of Adventure/Story mode. Hopefully they ditch the game board mode from WiiU. Also still hoping for a couple new characters. Crossing fingers for Rayman or Crash.
DarkeRaine FGC (1 month ago)
It's not a port nor is it an entirely new game, it's an iterative sequel
Nino Blarrow (1 month ago)
It's a new game idiots.
Hotep Anthony (2 months ago)
Yeah. It's definitely a port. An Enhanced port is still a port.
King Derp (26 days ago)
Hotep Anthony Except it's not a port, like at all
ziggyrules0489 (1 month ago)
Hotep Anthony no its not
applemon198 (2 months ago)
Best way to describe it is like what the arcade and super versions of street fighter are to the original game
Edmund Yu (2 months ago)
Bomberman should of been a playable character
ElliotKeaton (2 months ago)
It's a port of the original Super Smash Bros. for the N64. You can tell because it has Mario and Link in it and they fight and shit. /idiocy
Stoop Floy (2 months ago)
Nintendo's Nate Bihldorff, a senior localization director, confirmed that this next Smash will be a "new game built specifically for Nintendo Switch." This is a quote from a gamespot article, and if you look at Nintendo’s videos, you can see him say this if you still do not believe the cold hard facts. Spread the word people
Stoop Floy (2 months ago)
Smash ultimate is not the same engine as sm4sh, and if the CREATOR of the game, MR SAKURAI states that is a new game, then it is a NEW game. All of you people claiming that is a port are doing nothing but tarnishing the reputation of not only smash, but sakurai himself.
Duke (2 months ago)
All they had to do was up it to Melee speed.
Duplighost Nero (2 months ago)
Trujillo 2020 (2 months ago)
You could call it the official Project M of Smash 4.
Leonardo R.C. (2 months ago)
A director's cut?
Jordan (2 months ago)
So it's a port then. It's the Smash equivalent of Street Fighter Ultra Turbo.
Michael Stardude (2 months ago)
This is the most pointless video if you actually watched the reveal for Smash. Seriously this is a waste of time of a video.
Whiterun Guard (2 months ago)
But is there a story mode
Juan Manuel Esis (2 months ago)
For me is more a Port than a New Game. I will consider it as a New Game only if it includes a story mode like Brawl (The Subspace Emissary)
BiscuitHead (2 months ago)
It's an expansion pack, and it should be priced accordingly.
Darth Kaiba (2 months ago)
If you're someone who extensively played smash 4, you'll definitely notice some changes. But to me, someone who loves playing melee, it looks like the same game to me, with added dlc. It's new name S M 4.5 H is a very fitting name, because it's kind of like how the WWE titles feel like after every year of making a new one lol
armzngunz (1 month ago)
Melee was just Smash 1.5
setitus (2 months ago)
Will it have loot boxes? Do you think you'll get stickers from them? Will they put more characters in the loot boxes do you think? Geno maybe?!
Phantom Baphomet (2 months ago)
It's a Hybrid. Half Port and New game. It's just like the Switch , half Portable, half Console.
TheCount (2 months ago)
It feels like a sequel in the sense Splatoon 2 is.
Cj_sucks_at_life (2 months ago)
This is a port. A port of *Them All*
Most Wanted (2 months ago)
Ridley?! OMG!!! I am a big fan of Super Metroid, I might just buy a nintendo console for this.
William Oliver (2 months ago)
But where are the cosmetic loot boxes?
Jesse Sess (2 months ago)
I brought up fallout 4 the other day. Engine feels so dated...
Derek McCormick (2 months ago)
Good to hear that your a scrub smash player, play with items or stop acting like you are playing smash
thumbwarriordx (2 months ago)
So another standard fighting game sequel in the Super Ultra Turbo Champion Hyper-Fighting tradition.
Plokewn (2 months ago)
Nice haircut Yong.
Zoreth Caliber (2 months ago)
this video wasnt in my sub feed wtf
Callinater (2 months ago)
You sure it’s on the same engine?
Warren Young (2 months ago)
Wait a second... Is Snake's insignia at the bottom an exclamation point? That's hilarious!
blagd (2 months ago)
Maaaan I am soooo sick of people saying this is a new game. IT IS AN ENHANCED PORT! It's no different to Street Fighter 4 and Ultra Street fighter 4 besides fewer iterations.
Patrick Bateman (2 months ago)
I want story mode back so bad, Brawl's story mode was amazing and unexpected, it's a shame they decided to stop doing it all due to the cutscenes getting leaked...like what a lame excuse! So what if people ruined it for themselves, that's up to them, I never got anything spoiled and loved every second of Brawl. Smash for Wii-U/3DS was boring af...
B Wild (2 months ago)
I wonder if they’ll have DLC characters, like ARMS characters for instance. I think it could bring more attention to the seemingly overlooked title.
Disgusted Dedede (2 months ago)
Even after the game releases people will debate if this is a port or not
It's a fucking new game they have new final smashes and new hud interface and link has a new moveset and final and this game is gonna have a shitton more characters this game is way different from the previous game if it was a fucking port they would have keep everything the same this game is completely different from the previous game by your logic smash bros Wii u is a enhanced port of super smash bros brawl because it has similar gameplay from the previous game lmao

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