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Gaming Culture: Whatever happened to the RTS Genre?

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The RTS genre was the greatest thing possible 20 years ago. But somewhere along the line something was lost. Fewer games were released, fewer games were successful, fewer innovated and even fewer have enough staying power to become part of the culture, just as their predecessors. So, what happened? If you like this Video don't Hesitate to Press the Like Button and Share with your Friends ! Oh, and if you want more videos HIT the Red Subscribe Button ! If you like our work and want to support us, you can become our patrons. ►https://www.patreon.com/gaminghd ►https://www.paypal.me/gaminghdinfo ►Join Now on our Discord Server ! https://discord.gg/CZSXJwy ►Steemit https://steemit.com/@free999enigma Use this Links ! ► http://bit.ly/GaminGHDgog to buy Games on GOG to Support us ► http://bit.ly/GaminGHDgmg to buy Games on GMG to Support us ► http://bit.ly/gaminghdhumble to buy Games on Humble Bundle to Support us Amazon UK Affiliate Link: ►http://amzn.to/2mHBswq Amazon USA Affiliate Link: ►http://amzn.to/2mN90rY Amazon Germany Affiliate Link: ►http://amzn.to/2mHtNhC Amazon France Affiliate Link : ►http://amzn.to/2lBq6ci Amazon Italy Affiliate Link: ►http://amzn.to/2mbiwYO Amazon Spain Affiliate Link: ►http://amzn.to/2mN9XRo Host Links: ►Unacomn's Twitter https://twitter.com/unacomn ►Unacomn's Book (Tale of Doom) https://unacomn.itch.io/tale-of-doom ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥Be Sociable !♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ▶Steam http://steamcommunity.com/groups/GaminGHDro ▶Twitter: http://twitter.com/GamingHDinfo ▶Google+ : http://Google.com/+GaminghdRo All Rights Reserved. Copyright © GaminGHD.ro
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Tethloach1 (4 months ago)
An RTS game that is fun, and relaxing and competitive all at the same time depending on who you play against, relaxing, you get to build impressive structuress that serve key purposes, also capture key structures that tip the balance of power to break stale mates or but make it balanced enough so that players have to improve their skill level. a game that never gets stale, always has something new to learn, always has another level to play it.
hustler3of4culture3 (4 months ago)
GaminGHD I really enjoyed candc II on Xbox. It was difficult to learn, but some of the levels were brilliant. Sometimes you could only build certain units, or you could only have certain units. It was the limitations on what you could build that made it GREAT.
Dave D (4 months ago)
The fact you say starcraft brought the idea of asymmetry makes me think you actually never played C&C
DukeMrcha (7 days ago)
We definitely need *new construction options*
lihan song (13 days ago)
Too hardcore and worse players stand very little chance to defeat better players. Plus, unlike DOTA and LOL, there is no one else to blame for losing except the fact that you suck. It is too depressing to lose a game.
Josh Rain (17 days ago)
It became shit when most games either require internet to play, can be paid to win, or have terrible mechanics. The only decent game I've played so far is Rusted Warfare.
anab0lic (26 days ago)
The best I ever played were Total Annihilation, C&C generals + zero hour, the original dawn of war and Dark reign. I hope this Genre makes a comeback soon.
Stratos Zogopoulos (1 month ago)
Was released in the 00s a RTS game with modern war and I can't find it. I remember that you had to take supplies from ships, was kind of similar to EE 2 apart from that you could change ages. Pls help me to find it
Craig Dirty .Dority (1 month ago)
I HAVE THE BEST IDEA FOR A NEW RTS! A game similiar to factorio where you have to mine resources, setup logistics to turn them into components, then use those recources to build armies. Basically factorio and Supreme commander combine. Tell me you wouldnt play the SHIT out of that game!
Craig Dirty .Dority (1 month ago)
Starcraft might of been the peak of popularity in RTS but Supreme commander was the pinnacle of Genre and its a complete disgrace you didnt even mention it. It is still going strong right now with FAF even though Starcraft is dead.
GunRunner (1 month ago)
no mentioning of earth2150, makes me sad. it was easily one of the best RTS at thime, and still is all things considered....
Danilo Vasovic (1 month ago)
Name of game pls 18:36
nekrosante nabu (1 month ago)
I like soo much the RTS genre! but i dont speak English... and i suppose it will be a good video! Thx for all, Do you have a friend that speak Spanish? XD
David Quezada (2 months ago)
Nothing. They are still popular to our generation of 00's 00s that people were 20's 10's is call of duty gross. Fps I guess Rts is the best and now we are grown up! I still play 90percent rts
Mr. Coldfire (2 months ago)
Galactic Battlegrounds is apparently Star Trek now.
Humam GFE (2 months ago)
Companies killed rts genre and now they will kill the whole gaming world with them stupid ideas because them god is money they dont interested in anything only money and money consoles is sucks now exclusive is everywhere now mobile start to have exclusive really and they fucked everything the only way to make gaming great agian by killing consoles and this shit loot boxes and pay to win games and tgis will make both pc and mobile great and if they cant kill mobile too because 98% of mobile games is pay to win and holy crap gameloft its even worse than ea but fuckkkkkkkk
Elleh Frank (2 months ago)
Its coming. A game called Edge of Chaos is in development: https://www.facebook.com/EdgeOfChaosRTS/ These guys are really brave
The_Craps (3 months ago)
supreme commander FAForever FTW
David Risdale (3 months ago)
I actually really loved kanes wrath I know alot of people didn't personally the control's on console where an adjustment but I really loved it. But then twilight happened that pretty much killed it for me halo wars2 has been the only thing that came close and that's still not good enough for me
Bob Cobb (3 months ago)
too much time investment needed, other genres much more casual friendly (moba,fps,battle royale).. death of RTS
Jarin Xeno (3 months ago)
EA killed it. They bought every company that made RTS games and destroyed them. Blizzard still makes Star Craft but it takes them decades to make a game.
Adrian A (3 months ago)
Dune, Warcraft, Dune 2 ... Warcraft 2 .... C&C .... Star Craft1 ahhhh .... good times .
fernarias (3 months ago)
Reasons for decline; great games were followed up by terrible games as they tried to sell you another hit (think how crappy dune 3 is to dune 2 and warcraft III, which I stopped playing really early, compared to I and II, which I played until windows wouldn't let me) with too much crap, 39 dollar games became 69 dollar games in one year, not being able to play the old games once you upgraded your operating system was kind of bs.
Eugene Simakin (3 months ago)
Well I think rts evolved. Now we have games like they are billions or rimworld. Sure it's hard to say that they are rts with in game pause button and no multiplayer ,but gameplay and the heart of the game feels like rts.
Vherstinae (3 months ago)
Much as I love Starcraft, the ultimate RTS to me will always be Command & Conquer Tiberian Sun.
GreyMatter121 (3 months ago)
Personally, I'd like to see a mixture between Stronghold, and an RPG. The game would be exactly like stronghold, but your lord is your RPG character that gains exp and items that you carry with you after skirmish matches.
Dhameer Govind (3 months ago)
Best rts ever was dark colony
dennis askeland (3 months ago)
4x Which is Much alike rts is Doing alright tho. Paradox, total war,. That kind of thing
Name of Names (3 months ago)
Man... RTS has always been and always will be my favorite genre. C&C Brings back so many found memories. I've enjoyed so many series of RTS games. What is everyone's fav? …. My only major complaint about RTS games was the lack of improvement in AI. With all the advancements over the years how have there been no major improvements... In most cases AI just gets a boost of some sort instead of playing smarter. Especially when it comes to campaign and diplomacy. hahaha its the worse.
Eru Gi (3 months ago)
18:35 what is the game name starting at this time, can't figure it out from the way narrator says. And as far as time travel in RTS is concerned it was not a new idea - Red Alert did it, Original Wars did it...some more i guess also tried ;)
Eru Gi (3 months ago)
oh...didn't know that was available in grey goo :O
unacomn (3 months ago)
It's Gray Goo. And I didn't mean time travel as a story element, but as a gameplay element, where you fight a battle in time, as well as space, where you can send units back in time to help you win a fight you started before you build them.
Eru Gi (3 months ago)
The HUD in C&C looks unfamiliar to me...am I having an amnesia or is it some kind of mod you're using?
Eru Gi (3 months ago)
thanks for the info, gonna try it out, looks friendly:)
unacomn (3 months ago)
It's the OpenRA version, which runs C&C, RA and Dune 2000.
JoJo is not an anime (3 months ago)
Sad am sad
Anthony Yates (3 months ago)
Dawn of war anyone?
Daniel Cross (3 months ago)
Company Of Heroes? Not a single mention. :(
ZERO (3 months ago)
> Galactic Battlegrounds. > "Star trek game" Come on, that's a rookie error if ever I saw one.
do ye kno de wey ? (3 months ago)
Don't bet your money on AOE4 being any good, most likely it will fail badly. That is because it is made by Relic, yes the same fuckers who did Down of War 3 and killed the franchise
BluNestea (3 months ago)
Country games: diplo, rise of, Hearts of, ww1/2
Quimper111 (3 months ago)
The lack of decent RTS titles is why i play almost zero games nowadays, with the exception of SC2.
Byzantium Crusader (3 months ago)
The RTS genre evolved in to Grand Strategy.
Sebastian Nielsen (3 months ago)
Cant wait for age of empire 4
Leon Allen (3 months ago)
I think the way to rescue it is to make a new FULL Command and Conquer title for console. Release a mouse and keyboard as well. Then the controls arent a problem. Also Commandos was awesome too.
Ryan Fernandez (3 months ago)
Esports happened.. It was full of good intentions that spawned the cancer that is MobA.
Fan Jerry (3 months ago)
Hearts of Iron 4 is an RTS
Bad Dream (3 months ago)
Tattorack (3 months ago)
/Talks about RTS games that popularised or defined the genre. /Completely neglects Age of Empires II.
Divergent Droid (3 months ago)
Simple answer, RTS Sucked so it Died. Best examples of good RTS was when it was mixed with First Person with the main focus on First person and RTS used as a tool in the world as in BattleZone Combat Commander and Star Trek New Worlds.
zabarules (3 months ago)
Try Earth 2150 or any other from that series, modular vehicle build. Old game, but still not bad, and lots of you didn't heard of it. https://store.steampowered.com/app/253880/Earth_2150_Trilogy/
Magnus Sura (3 months ago)
Age of Empires, Age of Mythology, Rise of nations, warcraft. It is very supisious why this guy was not talking much about AoE when talking about RTS.
Mr Gunslinger (3 months ago)
Like others said: Total annihilation. Such an underdog, 10 years WAAY ahead of his time. Nothing even came close until starcraft war released 6-7 years later
William Fernandez (3 months ago)
Still my favorite genre! Bring M.A.X and Dark Reign back!
Nixon Rexzile (3 months ago)
Man RTS was the best but now even me RTS feels too slow and too impatient. But still I love RTS :)
tnightwolf (3 months ago)
Waiting for Age of Empires 4 already announced, and eventually a WarCraft 4.
Meme (3 months ago)
Company of heroes(2006) best RTS game ever made the physics engine was ahead of it's time even better than Crysis(2007) with graphics like COD 2(2005) Game was literally saving Private Ryan simulator And then opposing fronts came as dlc with British and German campaign (yes you heard me German campaign in WW2) And that expansion was Call of Duty simulator(for the British) And for Germans it's Hitlers wunderwaffe simulator The main reason why RTS is forgotten genere is because there is no profit in it and it can't work on consoles
Ironleg (3 months ago)
RTS games were always niche market even back then so nothing has changed. This video is full of misinformation and fallacies.
Thm46 (3 months ago)
Tyler Grodrian (3 months ago)
This video reminds me of Tool's "Message to Harry Manback" lol
Louie (3 months ago)
They evolved into 4X and Grand Strategy games.
bergschoorsteen (3 months ago)
i think the people who started playing computer in the old days were automaticly more intrested in the complexity RTS can offer, these days PC gaming is a lot more accesable and the kind of people who play pc games have also changed alot and i think they are more drawn to easy to learn games
Wade Pentz (3 months ago)
No mention of Company of Heroes? That game reinvigorated the genre by introducing a number of unique and fun mechanics.
Beta Ruler (3 months ago)
Really isnt a fan of TA eh? XD despite how bad AOE looks compared to anyone whose played TA.
Tristan T. (3 months ago)
You take some liberties here and just threw in your opinions with out distinguishing them from the facts. Just as a example 12:55 you said a MOBA and RTS was not even close and saying so would mean that GTA and PING PONG wear the same this is a Black and White Fallacy not a logical argument. Gaming isn't 100% One thing or the Other and the differences between MOBAs and RTS can be very blurry. Examples that blur these "lines" are games that would fall into sub categories like "squad based RTS" or Mixed Categorizes like "RTS RPG". You even went further with this Argument 16:53 claiming that Games that weren't apart of your narrow view of RTS wear just corruption in the RTS field.
Geraduss (3 months ago)
Well, Stellaris is a good rts game sure it can be seen as grand strategy but building units, bases, gathering resources and dealing with diplomacy is all in there.
Fred King music (3 months ago)
Stellaris and total war, must i say more :D
Adam Pilgrim (3 months ago)
Appalling video, I can read wiki myself
Slađan Benak (3 months ago)
Multiplatforming, that happened
Jodian Gaming (3 months ago)
What happened to them? - Art of War: Red Tides - Starcraft Remastered - Northgard - Halo Wars 2 - Subsiege - Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War 3 - Tooth & Tail - Spellforce 3 Those were just in 2017, when this video was made, and those are just the ones I was interested in... Just because a game doesn't meet YOUR definition of an RTS game doesn't mean the game isn't a good RTS game. You can't make every game a AoE style game. They'll get boring, fast. The RTS genre HAS evolved and it's become less base vs base (starcraft) and more reality-based battlefield environments like "Gates of Hell", which is also out in 2017.
AidanofVT (4 months ago)
Anyone interested should take a look at Planetary Annihilation.
Aaron Garza (4 months ago)
What happened? Here’s what happened. RTS isn’t as profitable as FPS. Why? Consoles. If you make a shooter... It can go on... The PC Xbox One PS4 Switch Etc. An RTS cannot. An RTS requires a mouse and keyboard, period. So if you are a developer, meaning the owner of a software business, the best way to ensure you meet financial goals is to reach out to the majority of the market... That’s right, the console market gives you access to all those players on console and thus improves your revenue stream. An FPS also makes it easier for you to get funding from publishers to make your game. An FPS is also more accessible than an RTS. FPS also makes it easy to implement Crazy Monetization Schemes, aka loot boxes. FPS fans are also more willing to ignore and contribute to these schemes. RTS gamers... Not so much. So there you go... RTS is gone because it’s not as profitable, period. No one in the industry ever makes a game for fun, they make it to generate revenue. Hope this clears everything up. Oh and why were Blizzard’s RTS games at the top of the pile from the rest? Battle.net, period. Battle.net gave you an easy way to talk to, setup, and play the game. Other games used a traditional sever browser, lacked friends lists, etc.
sirius4k (4 months ago)
AoE 1 & 2, C&C Tiberium Sun, Red Alert 1 & 2, Dune2000... fuck yeah. Those were the times.
Foof0811 (4 months ago)
Forgot to mention world in conflict. That remains my fav even though I play sc2. I was stoked for cnc generals on frostbite engine but EA fails at everything so that was miss :(
ApocGuy (4 months ago)
dawn of war 1, earth series, dark reign, total annihilation, c&C, age of empires series, age of mythology (clone of AoE, but fun one), ground control 1/2, mech commander (yeah i know, silly me. but i like that game), supreme commander/add-on, world in conflict...great old times of even greater games. not keen of modern RTS though
Chad Kimsey (4 months ago)
Dude, what about Supreme Commander - Forged Alliance? Air, navy, and ground with 3 tech levels each, 4 different "races", huge OP experimental units unique to each faction, nukes HUGE aoe unlimited range and smaller tactical missles, and never seen before large maps with artillery and high tech units with 10km attach range....epic RTS i transferred to from SC2 due to large scale battle and much more complex strategy & eco balance. Still huge even today, why no coverage of SCFAF ???
Simonas Navasaitis (4 months ago)
Your voice sounds like Vlad's from Magicka and it cracks me up :D
Joryn Zavoliski (4 months ago)
Galactic battle grounds was a star wars themed game, not a star trek themed game. Great video otherwise, keep it up!
AwesomeByrd (4 months ago)
The first time I played C&C was on the Sega Saturn. I liked it, but once I played C&C Red Alert Retaliation on the PS1, that game was so fun. I still have the soundtrack to it. Starcraft was good on the N64. I wish they would put part 2 on consoles now. C&C Tiberium Wars on the Xbox 360 actually had good controls, which isn't always the case on consoles.
Theeraphat Sunthornwit (4 months ago)
Play There are billions . I am bored with most games but i play this everyday for about 4 months now
La Cai (4 months ago)
Supreme Commander left a mark and still alive after many years.
Chad Kimsey (4 months ago)
I loved the unique large scale maps and huge tech available with tach missles, naval cruisers w 5km ranged missle barrage etc., awesome game I still play. Where else can you throw a nuke 30km away on your enemy while sneaking in experimental spider walking fortresses fitted with 6 different wpn systems standing 100ft high???
Icespoon (4 months ago)
No Age of Empires II?
drobvensick (4 months ago)
factotio is an rts.
Eric Klink (4 months ago)
Dune was great. Great memories. Pure RTS dont fit with the competitive gaming culture that all developers are hoping to create a game that has a long life with e-sports, etc.
W.Marko Yorris Z. (4 months ago)
what game last one ?
jolena auvuya (4 months ago)
World of Warcraft came along. thats what happened to the RTS Genre!
Tangle wood317 (4 months ago)
To this day no RTS in my opinion will ever match Company of Heroes
Kamen Kunchev (4 months ago)
Too much micro management made RTS games less enjoyable. It's that simple.
kenji_03 (4 months ago)
Good video, but you didn't discuss at all Dawn of War 1 or Company of Heroes 1.
YAMI (4 months ago)
I mean, grand strategy games are still somewhat alive and kicking (paradox games, total war series, civ) maybe take some hints and make a wierd RTS grand strategy hybrid? idk
gambit (4 months ago)
War Inc. called project Airos that was the direction to go. But it was not noticed and died.
Ares42 (4 months ago)
They evolved into MOBAs, which are played by millions and millions of people.
Fustard ButtBurger (4 months ago)
Empire Earth 1 is the best RTS ever created, nothing compared to that. All we need is a HD re make of Empire Earth 1 with more units on screen at once and a better zoom out (the modding community is doing a great job with EE 1.5 :-p )
Lt. Kettch (4 months ago)
One aspect that I think warrants inclusion is that now, today, we have the ultimate luxury or choice. We can play any of those games right now. So which do you chose to replay? My choices are Command & Conquer Generals Zero hour Sins of a Solar Empire Empire at War Although I haven’t played AoE in a while
Danny D (4 months ago)
I remember playing dota with naruto characters lol. The early 2000s were fun
The 4 (4 months ago)
Can anybody tell me what game this is please at 15:50 ? And this game 18:40
tacpaws (4 months ago)
I blame EA for killing it
LtTrog (4 months ago)
what about supreme commander? it innovated and refined the genre
paaatreeeck (4 months ago)
An RTS game needs to have an amazing editor to last. I always was a casual player, most people are. Don't have the time to sink into a game to become a hyper-competitive tryharding pro player. So what players like me come back for are custom maps. I still regularly play WC3 custom goodness to this day. After 30 hours or so in Battle for Middleearth 2 it was mostly custom maps that kept me coming back for 100 more (or, not a steam game for me so i am guessing numbers). You can't say Dawn of War without mentioning Ultimate Apocalypse in the same breath, and that was a long time after some of the most amazing custom content had hooked me and stopped me from ever running to far away. A perfectly balanced, and super competitive base game is an amazing thing, having limitless options is even better and i think the RTS genre simply forgot that it has the potential to have the most options. No other genre has spawned as many sub-genres. Also, i get that the background song is a staple of yours at this point, but to me it has gotten rather old. And boring. Just an opinion :D
Mitch D (4 months ago)
I still play Age of Empires 2 everyday on a 1080 :P
Raushan Thakur (4 months ago)
Try art of war 3
borderline (4 months ago)
This felt very unfocused and rambly, you need to make your scripts laser focused and better paced, and show more relevant footage while talking. You're talking about Warcraft 3 and MOBA, while showing Age of Empires. You start with Dune 2 and C&C, then just ramble about Starcraft while jumping around different titles. Sorry, but it's reaaaally off-putting and it's hard to follow your point most of the time because it doesn't seem like you have one. I'm half way through and it just feels like this could've been five minutes if you ripped out all of the constant meandering.
Mohamed Farouk Elewa (4 months ago)
quick question why the high "unlike" ratio ?
Vrangsynn (4 months ago)
The reason RTS declined is because, first, it fucking devolved into units with pure rock-scissors-paper mechanics. And second, because it fucking devolved again, for the worse, into tower defense genre.
Godzilla (4 months ago)
Galactic battle grounds wasn't Trek. It was Wars!!!
Nicolò Basso (4 months ago)
What happened to RTS games... Someone created a custom map for Warcraft III called Defense of the Ancients 🤷🏻

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